i was just about to tell u man, they are so freaking cool looking
and I hope since there is an unlimited number, like some of them work with scott and i hope they dont pull off some sireline BS where if you kill the leader, the rest die. Oh that would piss me off to beyond extremes
Just from their appearance and the way that Jeff and Posey talk about them, I can already tell the ghost riders will be badass. They talk about how the riders are unique and they have this power that we've never seen before. Jeff also pretty much confirmed that at least one person will leave with them, the obvious answer is Parrish, it could be someone else as well.
BTW an awesome idea is like if these riders are like cave/temple dwellers and are being released into the 21st century, their horses transform into like harley riders to fit in, like i dont want them to sound too much like ghost rider from marvel
That's what I'm thinking as well. We'll just see the 7 packs of this generation since Hayley is going to them for help. I'm still wondering which of the 7 packs Klaus is from, furthermore, I would like to know if Klaus and Tyler are from the same pack\bloodline since both are from MF
I still like her. I want to see more of Hayden during S6, however, she was cooler as a chimera. I don't get how Corey gets to stay a chimera but Hayden doesn't. Her powers were probably much more badass.
well i still hope that they bring back the dead chimeras to fill in. See im starting to wonder if its the nazis blood or the green fluid that brought them back from the dead cause im starting to think the fluid was to preserve the body.
I'd like it if the nazi brought back all the chimeras to join him and was like, unlike theo im an alpha and im going to kill scott mccall
Yeah, Derek or Isaac, those are the two characters that everyone seems to want to return. They will go crazy if that happens. I don't think too many people will care if Theo comes back, if anything they're going to be pissed. A lot of them are too immature to undertsand how badass Theo is, they just see him as the bad guy.
which doesnt make sense to me cause derek himself was never totally good either, i cant tell u how many fights he got in with scott, scott probably got in more fights with derek, his mentor than anyone and it wasnt like sparring fights
Derek has evolved as a character, he isn't the same guy he was in the first couple seasons. From the beginning he was like Scott's mentor, yeah they've had their differences but most relationships have. Without Derek, Scott would've died in S1.
Its a matter of preference, I don't like Damon. Damon is nothing like Theo. Damon is Elena's lapdog and would do anything she says. Theo is the exact opposite, he wouldn't let anyone deter him from his goal
like these orphans-klaus(not kidding), violet and sunny are taken to this creepy uncle named count olaf and he has these like weirdo minions and basically its this 13 part adventure to get free of him all the while going to other relatives or places because he wants them dead so he can obtain their family fortune
i went into there thinking it was fantasy and it kind of is in some parts but it ended up being mainly rooted in reality but i enjoyed it nonetheless, like i couldnt get enough of each book
i saw the trailer, it looked good and I hope its not a true blood copycat although that black vampire in there, yeah he played a vampire in true blood too
but i think this will be different and they really need to make sure they dont hammer in the whole us vs them concept, that has been done to death in that show, xmen, heroes, tvd, i mean its so overplayed now
plus its going to be tv14 instead of tv MA so they cant put in lots of gore, nudity and swearing
I also plan on watching American Gods, Iron Fist, Luke Cage and The Defenders. There's a ton of super hero shows coming out
Thats what I was hoping as well. I don't want it to be too much like true blood and I don't want a humanity vs the monsters theme, its over done, I'd rather their existence be kept a secret. Just from that trailer, the vampires are clearly different and this shows has angels. I hope their werewolves aren't crap.
since this superhero craze is going nuts they need to adapt lesser knows comics like neil gaiman(the guy who made american gods) the sandman, the xforce, stuff like that instead of another batman/superman/xmen/spiderman/hulk reboot, im glad they are adapting cloak and dagger, i dont know much of them except they are in spiderman, like anti heroes
oh gosh i know u said u didnt see true blood but be warned if u watch it the whole vampire predjudice thing is going for 7 seasons and its annoying
I'm right there with you. TW has been so secretive this season. I'm kind of looking forward to the TO trailer but not nearly as much as I'm looking forward to the teen wolf trailer. I've never been this excited for a trailer.
I was just on twitter and you may be right about Theo struggling between light and dark. Teen Wolf Wikia just tweeted that "Theo is the same character that you love to hate but he's broken, difficult to look the pack in the eyes when he comes back." They also tweeted that there will be one more character return. I have no idea who
Stiles doesn't have an anchor, he isn't a supernatural creature. That doesn't really make sense, the nogitsune is a spirit that takes people over, thy wouldn't go after Stiles for that, especially after all this time
As far as we know, the nogitsune isn't something that can be controlled. It doesn't sound logical that they would go after him for something like that but we'll see. And it looks like yu were right about the pack going to Theo for help, Liam clearly stabs Kira's sword into the ground and ask for his help
They likely need help fighting the ghost riders and Theo is one of the strongest beings in BH. He has the power of multiple chimeras. How would they get a Dread doctor? The Dread Doctors weren't put into the ground with supernatural magic, they cant be brought back life Theo was. Theo was never dead, the dread doctors are.
also i guess the riders took peter to the same place they are taking stiles, so that explains some things, not sure why though
i guess that takes away somewhat the idea i had he was going to lead a gang of creatures from eichen to take over beacon hills but there is always the desert wolf which oddly we didnt hear anything about her
They appear to be taking people at random, I doubt there's a legit reason as to why they took as many people as they did other than the fact thats its random. If they cross your path then they take you, thats what I think
while theo being redeemed or whatnot works inmy favor, Idk why they would pick him out of all people? Like i get its cause he learned what he did is bad but idk if peter, gerard and all the others locked up didnt.
honestly i would put the nazi and ghost riders in a more redemption arc cause the nazi, for all we know he was forced to be a nazi, hitler may have blackmailed him and the riders are mindless zombies and take orders,they are basically robots like oni and berserkers whereas theo killed people for power
but do take solace in the fact that even if theo does become a good guy you still have gerard, void stiles, kate, the desert wolf, the dread doctors and the beast as evil characters cause I know u like those characters but I think they will make peter join scotts pack too possibly, idk. Like you could do redemption arcs with people like chris,deucalion, peter, kate and maybe meredith and marcel because they arent shown to be pure evil. With theo, idk how they are going to do that.
and im getting sicker and more tired of these fans of teen wolf that go gaga over void stiles but hate on theo, they are the same Fing character!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Theo was the obvious choice. I'm pretty sure being dragged underground into what was possibly hell, is a lot worse than Gerard being locked in a room or Peter being locked up in a cell, they probably had it easy compared to Theo. Going through something like that would probably changed a lot of people's perspective.
That sounds very unlikely. Someone being blackmailed into being a soldier? If he was truly forced into doing it, the he wouldn't be the villain of this season. The ghost riders are henchmen doing their job, its their job as the supernatural, you cant redeem something like that.
Peter really doesn't have much of a choice but to help. Its either that or be erased from existence. That would force any enemies to work together. But Peter isn't joining the pack, he's just helping to survive. The ground work for Theo's redemption has already been laid down, there's no telling what was done to him, it couldn't have been pleasent.
Theo and Void Stiles were different in many ways, they were both bad guys causing destruction, the difference is, Theo had a goal, Void was just doing it for fun. As I've said before, they only obsess over void bc O'Brien played him
btw u will be shocked to hear this but i will actually take theo being a turncoat again if it means at least some of the ghost riders surviving u know? My hope is at least theo and some ghost riders are going to survive season 6 but i'd take the riders over theo on the status that at least they are probably immortal, theo is not immortal and will never be i dont think, he is bound to die of natural causes one day
im not gonna expect the nazi to make it out alive, he will probably die, maybe like u said theo takes his power and becomes alpha, that would be cool-half alpha half coyote
Why would Theo switching sides mean the ghost riders will survive? Jeff said that there's a number of ghost riders, not just the ones that have come to BH, even if they do die, there's still more out there.
I think the nazi will die too but if Theo kills him, I don't think theo would be a half alpha half coyote chimera, I think he'd be a real alpha werewolf.
teen wolf was without a doubt the best panel at the comic con panel, those tvdTO ones were pure trash but that is what u get when they just filmed and when the interviewers keep asking the same generic questions
I agree. At least we learned a few things from the TW panel and the trailer was much better. Its their own fault, TVD/TO has catered to the shippers and bc of that, those are the only kind of questions they are asked.
i think like the best news out of each panel is in TO we will see more old vamps and in tvd we got some info about new characters, that is really it, the news of tvd being cancelled is bittersweet news, I knew it was probably time but it doesnt make it anymore easier, ive been watching since 2010
i wouldnt really blame it on the writers, i blame it on these interviews cause they are the ones catering to ships, there may not be alot of material to ask but there is more out there than this ship nonsense. Like there is this june steroline wedding I keep hearing about and idk WTF they are talking about during the con. Im honestly more dissapointed with the TO panel, like I knew they could not say about the 5 mikaelsons much, I knew this, I knew they could not really say much about marcel and vincent and the factions but then why werent questions being asked about keelin, about allistair, about new characters and old apart from just cami and davina coming back?
As much as I trash this show, it has been a part of my life for quite some time. I first started watching when I saw a promo for 2x03. I remeber watching that episode and being confused as hell bc i didnt know what was going on but it was still an awesome epidode and I've watched every episode since.
The writers are more at fault, the interviewers only ask about it bc they know the writers like that stuff and theyll answer those questions. The writers have been constantly writing in new ships. I'm beyond tired of them. I was prepared for that. I knew they weren't getting any answers to any good questions.
my first episode was the one where stefan was in his basement cell and i remember saying at first i did not watch it cause it was too twilightish but i eventually just watched from there and i was honestly a huge klaus fan before he even shown up just cause i saw his book description and went off from there
well i can expect that more on tvd's side but TO's its more like they are getting asked about nonexistant ships
there is this other show from a vampire book i want made called vampire academy, im not desperate for it to get made but the movie was good but gotta warn u, if u watch it, there is lots of ship esque scenes, it makes tvd look downright tough in comparrison
First off, let me just say they look cooler than the average werewolf. I like the werejaguar make up. I want to see what else they can do. Kate was able to de-age Derek and create Berserkers. There has to be more to that mythology. How much faster, stronger, more agile are they compared to werewolves. Can they turn into real jaguars? This is the type of stuff I want to know.
All we know about the de-aging process is that she kept Derek in a magical temple inside a wall wrapped in wolfsbane. They never went into detail. She made Derek young again so that he would trust her. Kate made Derek into a teen, before the hale house fire, when he and Kate had a relationship. She wanted young Derek to get her the triskelion, so that she could learn to control the shift.
Werecoyotes don't have to evolve in order to shift into a real coyote, the same could be true for werejaguars but thats just speculation.
That is great. It would be disrespectful to his character for Tyler to not be in the final season. He has to appear at least once during this final season. Hopefully with a moonlight ring but thats just a pipe dream
As much as I would welcome that scene between the monster and Tyler bc he would be in action. This thing is thousands of years old, Tyler would likely be destroyed. Definitely, 100% on board with that. One more scene between Tyler and Klaus would be great. I wonder if he knows Tyler is a werewolf again.
BTW I know its sad about teen wolfs ending but u got to realize that like tvd and other shows, it needed to end before it played itself out. Of course the show has dozens upon dozens of supernatural creatures but its main focus is on werewolves and there are only so many you can kinds of them u can show before it becomes repetitive
and i still stand that the final 10 episodes will either be about lycaon and his sons coming back to life or the eichen house creatures getting out and peter is their leader
Thats a good point. Teen Wolf is ending before it becomes unbearable like TVD. Thats the only good thing about this. Its ending on a high note. The shows main focus was werewolves, now it has become shape-shifters. They aren't limited like TVD/TO. They could've continued for seasons.
I doubt it. I think it'll be the nazi and ghost riders
Speaking of shows ending, I said this and I hated saying it but its the truth but I do feel after season 4 is done, perhaps TO needs to end, I love TO, its my favorite but they too have reached a standstill and going any further would rehash more things. As I said on my comment I posted, Im frankly shocked we even got a season 4 and like I realize there is 1000 years of history but I feel they have shown every monumental moment to show. The only thing from their history I'd really want to explore further in is who kols first vamprie is, if they interacted with certain folk we know of and maybe more into that cave wall mystery but that is really it.
And I know you will say bring in new creatures to keep it going but u got to understand like TW, bringing in new creatures just for the sake of it wouldnt fit within the context of the story, it would be there just to be there u know? I think the writers have a set end date and they just aren't announcing it.
Even this new big bad they are teasing, its exciting but it's going to be something very familar, I know it will, they have to create a hype, even if its a fake hype cause even they are smart enough to know that watching hayley and hope with barely any of the mikaelsons is going to make the viewers drop even faster than season 3, they know this
I've been saying this. My hope has always been for 4 seasons. We've got that, but they aren't doing much with it, just introducing the same story over and over. The Mikaelsons have 1000 years of family history, it shouldn't be too hard for the writers to think of something new. Its difficult to say that we've seen every monumental moment when they can just make another moment up, like they did with the rest.
New creatures is only half of it, I know you can't just bring in new creatures, but that allows the writers to start off with something new. Maybe give them some new excitment and writer something that we haven't seen before.
We all already know that this antagonist isn't going to be something new, but something we've seen before. Thats why I'm not excited. I hope they know that just Hayley and Hope will fail completely.
for the second point the newness factor is incredibly, extremely hard to do. I'm a writer, ive been writing since i was a little boy and i have seen hundreds of stories played out. There really isnt anything new a story can do at this point except create shock factor for the audience but in a way that might piss off lots of people.
When you're a writer working on a supernatural show, it has the potential to be about anything. SPN has like 13 seasons. TO can't even get through 4 without being repetitive. That tells me that it has nothing to do with the story, its the writers, they have a ton to work with and still come up with nothing.
SPN is still enjoyable for some veiwers after all those seaons. My point is that these writers couldn't even maintain that for 4 seasons. Its the writers fault bc they aren't creative.
I'm not saying bc its supernatural, anything goes, I'm saying that this genre alone has a ton of potential. These writers were givem more thatn most bc they're character had already been established and they 1000 years of history.
All three seasons of TO had a ton of vampires vs witches vs wolves and there were times when all three seasons were Hope oriented, especially the first two seasons. Thats become really repetitive. Then they constantly kill of the cool characters. Hayley pulls some crap that a hybrid of her age shouldn't be able to do. There's always enemies that are outmatched coming specifically for Klaus. This is just a few examples. All they're doing is telling the same story with a twist. It hasn't been 100% recycled material but its enough for people to notcie
If they don't have a specicifc weapon to kill him, I dont get why they are always so arrogant and willing to come after him as if they'll win.-because the writers are complete morons when it comes down to this area
It won't be even be remotely the same as if those two characters actually met. I doubt I'll actually watch the show, I tried it and it was very boring. Once the season begins, there will probably be clips of Hoechlin as Superman uploaded on YT, so I'll check those out.
ive thought about this in detail and since they dont body jump anymore, the only ways possible the original werewolves from old times would be in the present day to fight the originals is
either they were trapped in some phoenix stone/ancestral veil esque thing but this might contradict the mythology since qetsiyah created the other side unless they come out and say oh well she created the other side for all creatures but she didnt create the first other side which i can see them doing
or just straight out make them immortal and reveal they were immortal about silas and lie to our faces
The release date was in November, we don't know if that is still true. Jeff said they had to delay filming the rest of S6A. This could potentially affect the premiere date, depening on when they start and when they finish.
oh that is such BS, i hope it doesnt affect the premiere set date
and yeah its clearly obvious dylans injury affects this, not his fault but obviously MTV or viacom or whatever is scapegoating it with another reason cause they dont want the obsessed lunatic fans to blame dylan for the setback
The arc is focused on him but he won't be upfront and center like he usually is. If Stiles is taken by the riders, then that means he has disappeared, meaning the writers don't need O'Brien around for that much. Majority of S6A will likely be spent looking for Stiles, fighting the ghost rider or the alpha, Stiles doesn't have to be present for any of that.
Each time we saw him was brief. He also appeared to be wearing the same clothes, so chances are this all happens in one episode. I believe it was said that he only was supposed to film an episode or two before leaving for The Maze Runner
Bitten is very different from Teen Wolf. TW has more creatures, also their werewolves are cooler, they're more powerful than the Bitten werewolves. I do like how Bitten is more focus on adults instead of teens but I still prefer Teen Wolf. Bitten also had some really badass fight scenes.
Thats good to know, but its not that hard to put Kira to shame. Speaking of TW, have you heard what the fans have been up to? They've been constantly commenting on Netlfix's instagram page to buy tw and make a 7th season. Paul told me that its the main story of this week's blog. He also told me thats its unlikely this will happen. But it would be awesome it if did. Netflix shows are great
I don't watch PLL, so I don't care. It would piss me off more if they were on the same network as TW. However, MTV wanted to end it, so this is it. I'm cool with 2.0 happening, but it seems like we won't be getting that.
im getting bad vibes cause its probably that sybil chick and in her description it says she is immortal
many times in the casting descriptions there is fake info thrown out, if there was ever a time for it to happen, it needs to be now. Like I would feel so much open and fine if the mythology seasons ago said silas was the first immortal human, not the first immortal so I'd be open to creatures above him being immortal but that is not what was said and if they had qetsiyah and silas and atticus lie for the sake of it, then we can't ever trust what we're being told and that is what I told another user
Its very possible that the monster and sybil are the same, but we don't know for sure. Vampires are immortal, that could be what the description is referring to, they could've said immortal just to have us guessing.
Well, we know for sure that this thing is older than Silas, so if it is a true immortal then thats completely retcon.
i checked the teen wolf spoiler edition cause i once again forgot but of course nothing really significant, of course there was the whole save teen wolf petition which i did not sign and it flat out said it wont change anything
but i did have a teen wolf thought cause of a comment i posted on the bloody crown page and i hope we will get these interactions between the characters who have never met cause i sort of enjoy it plus like tvdTO, there isnt alot of things left i want to see
but here are the main interactions i want to see:
theo meets peter
theo meets gerard
theo meets argent
theo meets the oni
theo meets the nazi
theo meets the riders
peter meets the riders and nazi
gerard meets the riders, the nazi, the oni, berserkers, nogitsune, desert wolf, the darach, peter(oddly enough i dont think they actually met to my memory) and kate now she is a werespecies
theo meets jackson
theo meets derek
theo meets kate
theo meets the berserkers
the oni meets the nazi and the riders
the dread doctors meet the oni, berserkers, nazi, peter, kate, the desert wolf, the nogitsune, the darach and the riders all in a flashback
those are the main ones i want to see, im probably missing some and of course im all for them meeting to create fight scenes, feel free to list yours u want to see
oh yeah and in a flashback i'd also like to see sebastien interact with the oni, nogitsune, berserkers, the riders and the nazi, i would have loved to see sebastien interact with derek and peter but we wont get to see that
I'm not so sure we'll be seeing the skinwalkers again, but I did want to see them in action. They're suppose to be able to shift into animals, so disappointed we never got that. Derek can actually shift into a wolff, I feel like there could've been a cool connection/interaction between him and the skinwalkers
btw im watching that nerd hq teen wolf to get some spoilers if possible and catching up on any other spoilers from comic con i may have missed
seeing zach levi at the nerd hq makes me kind of want him in TW cause remember him in heroes?, just imagine that but no redemption that his character luke had, he'd just be as ruthless as gerard and kate, possibly even more so, a hunter of all supernaturals or just werewolves or just banshees/non werewolves perhaps
do u know what an android is? Its a robot made to specifically look like a person, well my idea is the government has been studying vampires for as long as its been around and with the upgrades in technology, made 5 new android vampires to take out marcel and the other 4 originals, their strength, speed, etc would be doubled even beyond marcel
TO can't even pull off simple things like making werewolves a threat or forwarding the story without dumbing down the characters. How would they be able to bring in robots and the govenrment all in one season. They'd fail at that obviously. And like I said, they're not that far in the future, technology isn't that advanced to be making robot-vamps