it was cause someone claimed to be a writer but they weren't and I merely said I was here to answer unanswered questions which i told them wasn't 100% true but this person was an admin and blocked me forever for apparent disrespect
They always do shit like that. Once I was in chat and they banned my because I didn't write anything. And I don't find anything bad if I didn't wrote anything it not crime. Also thet like to ban peoples from chat who don't agree with them. Those users are just horrible peoples and don't have right to by admins.
How come we count on this wikia Klaus', Elijah's, Rebekah's, ect transition to vampire as one of their deaths (since they have to die to become a vampire) but not Esther (possesing Lenore)? Her page says she only died 4 times. Ignoring when Klaus (and Rebekah) turned Lenore/Esther into a vampire. Why is that?
Hey Tommy, I saw you comment that you don't get how a vampire/siphoner hybrid would be able to remain alive after siphoning from themselves.
And I'm pretty positive that vampire/siphoner hybrids wouldn't run out of magic and end up killing themselves because the vampire spell is constantly pumping more maigc into them in order to keep their immortality flowing. So, as they siphon from themselves, they're constantly being resupplied with the magic from the spell (which gives them immortality indirectly from the White Oak Tree) that makes them vampires.
Because with other sources, they would have to touch them and siphon magic from them, making sure they didn't use the magic up to quickly or they would need to find another source. But with their vampirism, they can siphon from their magic forever and not need to stop and refuel. It just makes them more of a threat because there is no down time to when they'd be vunerable to attack. And I think that's why they're such a threat.
The vampire spell dictates that their is a connection between the Sun/White Oak Tree and vampires.
Now, the Sun gives vampires life and the White Oak Tree gives them immortality.
So, this means that the power from those two sources will always flow to the vampires (hense why they have life and immortality at all times).
So as vampire/siphoner hybrids siphon from the raw magic within themselves, their connection to those two sources of power (the sun and the white oak tree) continues the same process of giving them life and immortality via magic.
So, you can siphon from yourself all day long, but the constant power from the Sun and the White Oak Tree will always keep you alive and immortal and full of magic.
With being vampire themselves though, there's really no need to even siphon from anything or anyone because they have an unlimited supply of magic alrerady. And if they want to increase their power more profoundly, they could all just hold hands and siphon from each other and do unimaginable feats of magic. The only reason they would want to siphon from someone is if their's a witch they want to kill through siphoning.
Because when they siphon magic from themselves, they use it up; it doesn't stay in their bodies. It's expended with every act of magic they do. And then the Sun and the White Oak Tree constantly supply their vampire bodies with more magic. And so, the cycle repeats itself over and over again.
I think the bigger question, is how do they control the rate at which magic in siphoned?
And I think part of their ability IS being able to control how fast magic is siphoned.
I think the problem is that you think siphoning magic from a vampire would cure it of vampirism, but it wouldn't. When you siphon from yourself, your body is still going to be a vampire because of the spell, and there's no undoing the spell.
And vampire/siphoner hybrids don't draw magic from their life force because they are already dead. The only reason why the're still alive is because the Sun is their life force, and the Sun can't be destroyed, so the siphoner can't die of overuse of magic.
I get what you're saying, but without this explanation, there is no other way to explain it. I don't think this is going to be explored anymore because the writers naturally assume that you take their explanations to heart.
Channeling means that you can draw power from sources without touching them, but it is strictly stated that siphoners can only get power from siphoning off other sources. Siphoning means to remove power from something and have it moved inside of you. Channeling does't allow you to steal power, it allows you to tap into the power of the thing you are connected to. You're simply a channel to which the magic flows.
If siphoners could channel then Kai wouldn't have needed to siphon magic from Jo's knife in the 1994 Prison World, he could've just channeled the Sun, but he didn't because he physically had to touch the object he wanted to steal magic from.
well u know and I won't be all mad at tvd/TO, there are other shows which the magic is convulted
like I've tried to get this notion by certain folk but they just don't get it but the fact of the matter is magic just doesn't automatically mean you can throw all logic and intelligence out the window u know? It has to make sense and so many things don't and I have to sit down and think and just apply the situation to how it could make sense.
My mind doesn't allow for plot-holes so I'm always trying to add it all up in my head to form a basic picture. It's really stressful trying to figure this stuff out for ourselves. And I wonder if the writers actually have the explanations or if they themselves don't know either.
well for example even in a supernatural world, decapitation, fire, heart extraction and maybe the removal of other organs should destroy a vampire or immortal being, because the super healing process take care of the wounds inflicted by bullets, hard objects, knives and minimal burns
but the tvd/TO writers and many other writers from fantasy shows have to make some special blade be able to kill them and it usually makes no sense because that would mean an outside force is helping them to kill them but it's like why not just allow them to be killed any other way?
that is why nowadays i try to tell people sci fi and fantasy are the exact same thing, the supernatural is just heightened cells of what already exist in the body or introducing some that don't exist,
I actually feel if the writers of any type of these show made the mythology simple to understand, there wouldn't be all this confusion cause truth be told because of the traveller mythology, the tvd writers now decided to tone down the mythology and make it much simpler.
and i don't know if u were here that day but i got into a debate with some other users about how if finn was stuck inside freyas necklace and I eventually remembered the stone must be hollow and empty on the inside, thus how he would be able to get inside, shrink obviously but be inside but some people were like, tommy you're wrong, it's his soul, his conscious that goes inside and when I asked people to explain their answers made no sense.
It's like people just stop turning this into something it isn't, it's just him shrunk down to microsize and stuck in the stone, that's all it is!, stop making it harder then it needs to be!
But Finn's soul was inside of Vincent, Freya just transferred it into her talisman. Finn couldn't have shrunk down to microsize because that would imply that he could physically shrink, but we know that souls lack physical form.
Like, think about the demons from Supernatural, they don't shrink down in order to possess someone, they just go into the brain of the human and take over. So, the demon didn't physically shrink down to microsize and start roaming around in brain tissue land, their essence is just inside of the human brain.
But Finn wasn't a ghost. Ghosts in the world of TVD/TO are souls that are stuck in a spiritual dimension that can be seen by people who have died and come back to life. This is the only instance of someone being called a ghost.
And besides, souls are only able to take on a spiritual form while in a spiritual dimension. Without one, they have no spiritual form and don't have the option of gaining a physical form by means of a witch granting them a foothold on the Physical Plane.
But Freya's necklace doesn't have a dimension in it, so Finn's soul isn't a ghost.
And let's just say for example if Freya would have pulled Finn's soul from the Other Side (when it still existed of course) or the Ancestral dimension and placed it in her necklace, Finn's ghost would become a soul again once placed in her talisman because it's just a stone with no dimension attaced to it that would allow him to have a ghost form.
I'm just trying to say that a soul only takes on the appearance of its former body while in a spiritual dimension. Without being in a spiritual dimension, the soul would probably just be an essence of raw spiritual energy.
And with the body not being hallow thing, I was referring to how a soul doesn't need a hallow compartment to exist inside of something, like a brain (or Freya's amulet).
You know what I'm saying?
Like, the soul can't have an appearance and a form while inhabiting a brain or an object because it's just raw spiritual energy. There is no way for that raw spiritual energy to manifest itself into a spiritual form. That's the whole reason why a ghost can only exist in a spiritual dimension, because that dimension is specifically designed to translate raw spiritual energy into a spiritual form.
To the PLL adminsI was banned for Trolling: Ignoring Admin warnings on several occasions and posting long comments
1.I did not troll, I did not harass anyone or try to cause arguements
2.I did not ignore admin warnings on several ocassions, I was only told twice about it
3.The reason I started to post long comments is because recently other people including some of the admins were posting long comments so I figured that rule was no longer in effect and I could write longer ones
We've explained it countless of times about when people are on mobile its lags and it doesn't look good aesthetically to have them present. Right now ur being really rude. Not knowing is not an excuse and we've explained it many times throughout all the pages and even highlighted so that everybody sees it.
i am not being rudealso im fairly new to this wikia so maybe cut me a break? also this we've explained is irrelevant to me because A.who is we? The only admin I've talked to is you and B.I once again tell you, I was never warned multiple times about this!
Look through the comments and forum posts. A lot of them were highlighted for everyone to see. I get that ur new, but that's no excuse. Had u read the rules, you wouldn't be here. You're the one that isn't listening and is acting like a petulant child not getting his way.
Tommy,Klaus&Kol2012+ I am curious, what do you think of the reasoning that Klayeys give that the writers will one day write Klaus as somebody who "wakes up and sees Hayley is the one".
The reason why I asked you is because I know that you are very into the Klaus' character and Joseph believes that Klaus really will never settle with anybody nor does he believe that Klaus will be with somebody romantically. He doesn't believe that Klaus will open himself up to anybody like that EXCEPT Hope.
But some of the Klayeys still say that she is the one that sees him the best.