On the vampire (spices) page.. the culture and socity part is short to non-exits... wondering if you could unlock it for me? I want to add some details. Or I could sent you the draft so you can copy it (and approve it obs).
I send you this message for telling you that I tried twice to edit Esther's page but I didn't succeed because only administrators can do it (I don't have this problem with the other pages, like Hayley's)...
I only wanted to actualize Esther's relationships (especially her family's members who are dead now, like Kol)
Since the new rules have been instated, regarding editing threads (the need for a moderator or admin to remove spam, deal with obstructions, etc...); I thought you should also change an update the "Forum Policies/FAQ" page. As it is written right now, it's obviously wrong (I was going to change it, but realized that those type of edits are an admin type of thing, so...).
So I thought I'd give you a heads up, perhaps the other admins might want to decide if they just want others to contact a moderator or admin about the spam via their wall, or some other way of getting ahold of us; along with mentioning how to put a link to the spam in it as well, I'd imagine.
BTW, I wanted to also know, do you or other admins wish us as moderators to still notify--you, as admins--about removals of spam or other material that is obviously not supposed to be on this Wikia. The reason I ask this is if you wish to ban the IPs or various other reasons, regarding the IPs; though I imagine you do want us to notify you if the spam is put up by an actual "user" rather than a normal random "A Wikia contributor" so that you make take appropriate action against the account...
Did I get everything right? Also, like I said, let me know of any "procedural" type changes you would like us to follow (as moderators) when removing spam in general..
Hi Yogurt, thank's for getting in touch, I will update the 'Forum Policies/FAQ' section. As for the letting an admin know, thats totally up to you. You can if you want check the notify an admin box, but it's up to you. As for blocking, just registered users, there is no point in picking up on all anon's spam and blocking them because if they create an account the block becomes void. Anything else, don't hesitate to get in touch.
This is a list of the Spam that is located essentially on the main page of the General Discussion Forum (if you want, you can just skip what I'm writing and go look for the title of various threads that start out like: I got My Ex-Lover Back; Dr."x"; etc...). Then I don't have to copy and paste the entire thing to you...which would be VERY messy (and lengthy--plus there are multiple responses in many of the threads talking about, "how wonderful the treatment or doctor was"). Here are the titles of the threads in order from newest to oldest (first page to second page--I won't bother going farther back because it no longer bothers me and it doesn't get in the way of our discussions anymore). Here are the most recent ones (again, this is in the General Discussion Forum):
That should be enough--feel free to divide the workload, as there is a lot of "ban-sticks" to be handed out. How irritating. They'll probably start putting up more, just for kicks and revenge too... *sigh*
--Not exactly a great idea by Wikia... I understand it, but it created another set of huge headaches, as many as it got rid of...
Hi, Yogurt, thanks for the notice, I see Mgc cleared up the spam. Also, one of the reasons wikia disabled the communities ability to edit the forums is because they made a new usergroup that can remove threads etc. I was woundering if you would be interested in joining?
I'd definitely join to help out here and there. It just depends on the "requirements" (or more specifically, what they will require me to do, to be a part of this; I understand some of it is needed, but unfortunately I may not be able to do some of them...depending on what it is of course).
So, if you wish to send me further information about it, and what it entails (where and how to join, with any requirements and other specifications...), then send me an e-mail @: email@example.com ; and I can be found under Google+ as Kimball Eaton as well (and Twitter as yogurt4thesoul).
If there is one thing I dislike, it is definitely spam, especially spam that is trying to sucker people into giving people rescources, time, and money...
Hi Yougurt, sorry for the late reply. There are no requirements really, it's not like we are asking you to go hunting for spam. Basically, you'll just recieve the abilitites to delete spam from the comment sections and forum/message wall threads. You can join Thread but not comments if you wish or not at all, it's your choice and the offer is here if you decide you don't want it just yet. Thanks advance.
Go ahead and consider me onboard then. I certainly like to keep the boadrs tidy when I happen across spam, so it would be nice to be able to reclaim abit of that ability. It becomes to much of an issue for you as admins, when you have to handle every little tiny problem (not too mention the amount of abuse, and finger pointing that comes with any such posistion, instantly...so I don't envy your job, especially when you are doing it to be a "fan" or in service to a Wikia you love/like). So if I can help a little, then let me in.
Like I said, if you need to tell me anything special or that shouldn't be here on the Wikia, just e-mail it to: firstname.lastname@example.org
Hi, I'm not too sure. On many of the episode pages he will appear as a recurring character as he was a recurring character at the point of that episode being recorded. Feel free to change any if you like, just be sure to include a reference so nobody undo's your edit.
First sorry for the length and semi-ranting like conveyances, here and there in this post, but it can't be helped, because I feel the issue is getting a bit out of hand. I wish I could send this private as well, but, oh well (if you can, tell me at the end of your response, I'd love to know). Respond here or on my wall, I'll look for both. Thank you.
Why exactly was the decision made to take away the ability for us to edit spam messages. Was it due to the fear that these same spam users (or others--perhaps admins have been far too busy "rollbacking" things they shouldn't have to; thanks to "Internet Impotent Rage Storms™") might come in and wipe out (even though as I just mentioned you have the "rollback" function; mentioned elsewhere) or edit threads and edits that DID have a right to be there and were not spam...?! Were you tired of us reporting the spam (I know I did, but I did so, in case you wished to track down the IP numbers--some admins are like that). Or was it altogether something different that caused this decision to be made?
I guess I should ask, if it is actually only affecting me; as though I made an admin angry for an unknown (and I really do mean unknown reason). But, since these post are not going away a all, I have a feeling that this change is universal and that no one can edit and remove these threads/posts/edits.
Instead of reversing your decision(s), is there any way to give a type of "partial" administrative access (a Board Admin, or something akin to that; not able to affect the Admin Board of course; and if misused, it would be grounds for outright banning...unless it was just "barely skirting the rules--then perhaps a long suspension of the account and IP) to some members who are around enough (and use it correctly, for the right situations; and if needed forwarding the spam and IPs related to the posts in question...)? Because as it is right now, the General Discussion Board (which, if I may be brutally frank, seems to be un-monitored), with possibly other boards (I don't know as I haven't used them lately--though I'm sure you'd get rid of spam on the Admin Board, which makes me a bit angry). You may in fact agree with everything I'm saying and be a type of admin that wishes to do something about this, but other admins are tying your hands on this. If the idea is REALLY to let them post a bunch, and then track the IPs to "hopefully" get the main IP to block it once and for all...I have to tell whoever's idea that is, that it is more than likely a pipe-dream. They can bounce that IP around forever...
The best tactic is to simply NOT pay attention to them and to literally remove the spam the INSTANT it appears (with the way they keep writing their messages, you could create a script that blocks that type of message essentially instantly--allowing for rollbacks if you somehow screw it up; but with the right keywords, I don't know how you can screw it up...it would be just to easy to filter this type of spam...permanently).
The General Discussion Board right now looks like a laughing stock; I'm about ready to stop coming to this Wikia, literally, because there seems to be NO activity or attempt to do anything about this issue on the Administrator's side of things: except for making it so WE can't edit and remove this inane edits (which is the point of Wikia in the first place to some degree; I know the "comment boards" get a slightly different ruleset, but in many cases they shouldn't).
So before I have to go ask another admin, please can you give me an answer on this issue... Do you plan to do something, soon, about this issue? As I said, I'm one step away from leaving this site for good--and from what I have seen, it may be possible that others have actually already left (as the amount of posts have been steadily dropping on that board, basically since the huge amount of spam started)! Is there a schism in this community that I'm unaware of, that has created this whole fiasco? Should I take up the matter with Wikia main, instead--hoping they care about their one main webpage dedicated to not only TVD, but TO as well!
What is going on?
Again, why not give a few of us the ability to edit/remove these type of pots (especially those of us that already have been doing it in the past, and not removing other things; though I'm sure others may have used the same ability to essentially show everyone their "rage" on the Internet; but I'd assume those accounts would get suspended with a pretty nasty warning, if not outright banning...).
Can you please let me know if there are ANY plans to deal with this issue (like I said, I'm getting ready to call it quits; and if I'm getting ready, then that means others more than likely are as well); or do the admins want us to just "gloss over" it's existence and pretend it isn't there...in other words, trying a new tactic (making them bored). The problem with this is it only takes ONE person to decide to e-mail or call that number, and ALL of your efforts have been for nothing (and I am 100% sure that this will happen)!
I really would like a new type of sub-admin that deals with flame wars and also SPAM (as that would be their biggest concern)! They would log the details that they can (if Wikia gives/provides it's admins with tools to help them find/locate or detect this spam, that would be great to get as well; but I imagine that this type of stuff is scripts created by the admins themselves--as it isn't exactly--sometimes--easy being an admin). Meaning anyone that takes up this type of position will need to become a bit more civil, here and there.
Or, is there a plan to "re-activate" the edit function for these spam messages? I'd love to have ANY answers on the topic, but I can't find any. IF the admins have indeed made a post that deals with this topic (possibly indirectly), please point me in the right direction. Sorry for taking up so much of your time. Feel free to delete this once you have the information you need.
Hi there, first of all, I'm sorry that you're considering departing from the wiki. I have only recently just again become active so I haven't been monitoring the forums, so I haven't seen the spam. Secondly, the ability for users to edit other peoples posts/remove them was a wiki decision. When the new forums were introduced, users were able to remove others posts, wikia staff choose to remove this feature as many other wikia's complained, we ourselves have no control over things like this. I will clean up the discussion boards of all spam and monitor them closely for further vandalism/spam. I will also contact staff and look into getting a group started with the permission to edit the forum namespace, I'm sure this can be done. We do however have an abusefilter that should detect and stop profanity and spam and auto block the users ip adress, we did however, have to disable this as it was blocking users when they were inserting character dialogue that included swearing etc.' so I will look into fixing that so it will only target forums and comment namespace. Thankyou, feel free to ask further questions or anything else I can assist you with?
Why did you change my edit on Bonnie's trivia section of her page? You reverted it back to her birthday being February 22, but it was established last night that it's actually February 5. She's also not a Pisces but instead an Aquarius. That's the only thing I changed, which are actually canon facts. The February 22nd birthday has never been canon, but instead a fanon birthday that has stuck for years.