At least Mason's smart. He figures things out. But Corey has only ever been useful for the GRs. They're gone now tho. I don't really care for Mason either, but given the two, I'd pick Corey to die. Whoever it is that dies, I just hope ts no one else I like. Still hate that Brett's dead. And I dont understand how Lori's dead
also I realized if halwyn is coming back, then probably they need to retrap the faceless in the wild hunt again which means we might see the gr again this season
idk, either its a plot hole or werewolves die in strange ways in that world. Like Im trying to think of all the ways you can kill them-by bullet/stabbing, fire, poisoning, idk if suffocation works on them or not-probably, what else-decapitation and body extraction as well, pretty much every main way of killing someone works on a werewolf I think
i hope they need the help of the riders so they can confront the faceless, that would be so badass, cause deaton said if it found its twin it would be unstoppable, and I'd like to have an actual unstoppable creature for once
They say unstoppable alot. A lot of villains are unstoppable... until they aren't, case in point, the Oni. They were said to be like an unstoppable force of nature. They were killed by silver in the end.
There haven’t been any major deaths on the final season of Teen Wolf. Should I be worried? — Mary
In Beacons Hills, you should always be worried. But more than any other episode this season, Sunday’s will make you question the future of more than one beloved character. With the war between Gerard’s hunters and the supernatural ramping up, Scott finds himself (and people he loves) in grave danger. Let’s just say you don’t want to miss the final minute.
There aren't any fights I wanna see. Not even sure if I'm watching S5. I only still come here when I have a message on my wall. Maybe Marcel vs Caroline and Hayley. Just to see him kick both their asses.
like i said, even if they kill her, they could bring her back as a ghost, now if they kill off theo....and that too, it says theo and liam are going to draw the hunters away from BH. What sense does that even make? How will that stop the hunters?
im looking forward to the fight scenes, the remaining mythology, maybe close up on this redemption thing and maybe the new and returning characters. Not alot for me either but its better than nothing. I will say this though, they picked the worst villians to be in their final season, just some random vamps from the 1930's. Like me and mac are hoping for the final big bad to be mikael, or maybe marcel.
But that's probably not gonna happen since they haven't brought anyone else back as a ghost. What don't know the entirety of the plan, so of course it all wouldn't make sense now.
Really? Just some normal vamps? I havent been following TO BTS bc like I said, I just couldn't care any less right now. That's probably gonna be trash too. The only thing that could get my hype about this season is if Hayley really does die. Mikael would be a far better choice.
at this point its hard to get really invested in who dies or not cause everyone lives as ghosts through some afterlife. Even theo, peter and deucalion who are like my top 3 favs right now, if they get killed I might not care
yeah just some random vampires, like if I am putting two and two together, the main villian is called margot and her sired son is attending school with hope
but that is the thing though, even if they die, they will live on through some afterlife and since deuc and theo redeemed themselves in a way they'd probably go to heaven, but I wouldnt mind seeing peter become an alpha again but I doubt it will happen
yeah they got to do something better than that, like have a secret weapon or something. Like maybe marcel forgot to destroy the enchanted thorn stake and they get ahold of it to use on klaus but then again im sick to death of vampires coming after klaus, its so overplayed now. And julie is a known klaus hater or another flip flopper so I could see her doing this.
There's still no proof of the after life. They havent mentioned anything like that. Regardless, its the last season, so it wont matter soon. I'd rather see Theo become a real alpha. That would make this season perfect for me.
The Mikaelsons alone could wipe of this family. That's without Marcel, who could decimate them ten times over. Even with the thorns, this still sounds dumb. I still say that the thorns being able to kill them is retarded af
dude ive told u before theyve already confirmed there is a hell, a purgatory so it makes sense there would be a heaven as well. As for theo being an alpha i'd like it if he took on his own wolf form and didnt just look generic with red eyes
well if not that, then im not sure how they will stop them. And apparently the hollow is going to be back as well as the villian. So there are 2 villians this season.
There's possibly a hell but we have no confirmation on that or heaven or ghosts. I believe all alphas have that extra shift, most choose not to use it, mainly bc of budget. I 'd like to see Theo's but him just being an alpha in the end would be good enough for me
Of fucking course. The Hollow wasn't enough of a fail last season. Why not bring her back.
i think valack also mentioned that the slaugh takes the appearance of souls so at least we know souls exist
but yeah did you read the sypnosis for episode 17, scott is making some recruitments, i say recruit deucalion, peter, ethan, jackson, kiras oni and the ghost riders. Cause they are facing a massive army of hunters, like the whole town is against them now except for a few people.
unfortunately he cant recruit braeden, hayden, the desert wolf, cora, issac and kira however. But its strange cause jeff said in an interview that he couldnt get those 6 back but then he says in another interview he got back all the living characters so im confused.
Not sure about the Slaugh. I would have to go back and rewatch.
I'm positive one of the recruits is Deuc. Which is probably the smartest decisions Scott's made all season. Not sure about anyone else.
I never saw an interview where he said that he got back every living character. Hayden's filming a movie. DW is on Riverdale. Cora is on Reign. Isaac is on FTWD. Not sure why they couldn't get Kira back.
he says it there, btw it would be awesome if scott got back kate and the berserker as allies cause right now there are way too many bad guys and i dont see how kate wouldnt be targeted, she may not be a werewolf but she is of similar species
I think Kate could take out most if not all the hunters by herself. She had a small army of Calaveras hunters shooting at her, yet she still wouldn't go down. They better have yellow wolfsbane or else they dont stand a chance. Sghe might team up with Scott but I think its unlikely.
Another werecoyote! Didnt expect that. I hope they plan on expanding the mythology. Can they be alphas? Do some have gold eyes, like werewolves? Is it easier for werecoyotes to shift into full animals.The basics. The finally said last episode that Malia is a Beta. Also looking forward to Theo and Liam scene.
How in the hell did she manage to capture a werewolf and a werewolf/kanima hybrid? I wouldnt get my hopes up for any of that, mainly the Oni. They arent attracted to anything. They just follow whoever broke the tail.
Nah. Introducing creatures but adding nothing to them gets annoying. werecoyotes have been around since S3 but they're just now getting around to answering some of the mythology based questions about them.
I agree that last night's episode had far too much Scalia. They're just forcing these two together bc they have no one else to put them with
but im still hoping kate and her berserker show up to help scott, that would be amazing, even if she double crossed him in the end, i'd be fine with that but scott needs as much help as possible, he has way too many enemies right now.
We already know they're showing up, but I'm not so sure about helping Scott. It depends on why she's in town. If Gerard requested her, then I doubt she's gonna be helping Scott. But I'd much rather see Kate and the berserkers take out all the hunters.
i also hope, if this berserker is real and not a hallucination, this time scott saves the berserker instead of letting them get killed by the hunters or the faceless. After all scott was a berserker, he should know what it's like, he should try to save this one.
I seriously think im the only one on this planet that is more excited for a scott/berserker team up than scott teaming with derek and stiles again for the 100th time.
Why the hell are their synopsis always so short? Its annoying. I wonder who the old ally is. Jackson, Ethan, and Deuc all return this week. Derek and Stiles are coming back together from what it seems. And Kate isn't exactly what I would call an ally. But I dont know who else it could be
I know. But it doesn't make it any less annoying. Its hard to get a understanding when we're only given 10 words
Kate is the only one I can think off as well. Maybe ally was just a poor choice in word.
Yeah. The hunters have taken over this season, not that I'm complaining, but this isn't the first time they've done it. Its a lot like Douglas and the Ghost Riders. 10 eps just isnt enough for 2 villains. Someone's gonna take a back seat
I'm not so certain there is, but there could be. However, there's no requirement for a fly and spider to be related. It could just be that spiders are creepy, and that's they theme they're going for. We'll know soon enough
Deucalion in action. He clearly has a fight scene coming up. I wanna see what else werewolf/kanima chimera Jackson can do. I'm hoping for a huge fight scene. Interaction between Kate and Gerard. There's a couple more, but I cant think of them. You?
um I think I want a big battle scenes, interaction between as many characters as possible who havent interacted, the faceless and halwyn confrontation,the return of kate, berserker, stiles, derek and whomever else, and also maybe new characters
No. They're misinformed. Parrish never killed it. He fried one half of faceless, but it didn't die. Remember Aaron came into the morgue, and let the spiders fall out of his mouth onto faceless. So, that half was never dead. Now, they're looking for the other half of Faceless that DIDN'T take over Aaron, but instead took over a werewolf.
btw how do u like this theory? Since tvdTO is stuck with just vampires, werewolves and witches, well I think there are supernatural animals that are either infused with vampire blood or enchanted with witch like powers. What do u think of that idea, its an idea to expand the lore but still stick with the same thing.
And Sirens (Lol) and hybrids. But I see no point in supernatural animals. Animals with vampire powers are essentially turned hybrids, and animals with witch powers wouldn't even work due to the complexity of magic, and the thought process that goes into even casting a spell. They have what they got. They need to focus on not makiing it any worse
im hoping she brings a freaking army of them with her so that way they got to call upon the ghost riders and oni and every other supernatural creature to stop them. But what will happen is probably some stupid thing where they allign with the hunters to take them out.
I think an army of anything is unlikely at this point. One or two Berserkers at the most, just like before. Thats what I think. I'm curious to see who side she's one. Im hoping Kate is just looking out for herself.
also I really liked how it says we will finally find out where parrish is cause im sick of him missing out on this fight. He is scotts most valuable assett.
also speaking of scott, scott is completely delusional if he thinks killing or stopping the anukite will stop the hunters. The anukite merely enhances what is already there, the fear. And its not like it affects everyone, that is where scott is wrong, cause its not affecting the other humans. He's going to have to take someones life, he just will. And what drives me nuts about this whole thing is he has taken lives before but all of a sudden he is a pansy of it. And you know me, im still upset at scott for not attempting to save the oni and berserker but instead he wants to save guilty people. He thinks he can do what elijahs doing for klaus and it doesnt work like that cause whereas klaus has moments of goodness, gerard, monroe, gabe, they arent. The only one whom I think he can out of this alive is nolan cause of his mental illness and him not having friends, he might be invited into scotts pack. Who knows man, maybe theo ends up betraying the team and nolan ends betraying his and he takes theos spot.
I really hope someone kills that teacher. She's pissing me off more and more.
Anukite is enhancing their fear, which is why they're attacking now, when they could've attacked before. Its causing a lot of the humans to attack, so stopping it at the very least would diminish the Hunters' army. I agree that he's delusional if he doesn't think he'll have to kill anyone, but he hasn't had to this far, so thats probably what he's thinking
The supposed werejaguar girl was Gwen. We know that the teacher isn't her mother. Gwen said that her mother was out of town when the GRs took her sister, but the teacher was still around during that time. I think her being a jaguar was either a false rumor or they changed it after they learned that this was the final season
Woden, maybe. But Faecless is clearly not a werewolf.
im not sure tbh, i guess the whole not being able to look into its eyes. But I thought we would find out about its origin story and we kind of did but we didnt find out how it got created in the first place.
well i used to get answers out of carina and michael but I must've pissed them off doing idk what or they just stopped answering a majority of fan questions. I'm going with the latter cause I don't remember doing anything wrong to them
Yeah, they should, but the TVD/TO writers proved long ago that they have no idea what the hell is happening on their own show
I would rather Theo turn evil, and I'd even be okay if he died an evil badass, but I doubt it. Redemption seems to be their route. In fact, I feel like he might even help/save someone in the finale. I feel like that scene when he tried to take Mason's pain was setting up for something, which would prove that he cares
that is the thing though, i dont want gerard and monroe dead, i just want them to get an ass whooping from scott and theo, or at least gerard, cause i dont know if monroe is under the influence of the anukite or not.
idk what to think of nolan but I hope he turns to scotts pack. However if scott finds out from nolan that gabe shot his mom, he is going to rip gabe apart limb from limb.
I can accept Gerard not dying, but Monroe has to go. She annoys the hell out of me. She's too arrogant, and not nearly as smart and skilled as she thinks she is. I don't care that the Anuk-Ite is influencing her
I'm kinda disappointed. The trailers from before the season aired kinda made it seem like Nolan was gonna be this super crazy badass hunter. Nah. Not really. Scott's a puss. He wouldnt do anything if he found out who is responsible.
even if the anukite isnt in control of her, her POV is more relatable than gerards, gerard just hates supernaturals, plain and simple, monroe hates them but more she wants to protect humans I think, so she isnt pure evil, at least that is what im taking from it. I think what just really annoys me is they are all human and want it to stay that way, and that is boring to me. With the other villians, they have cool powers so they are more interesting to watch.
idk, scott looked pretty pissed when melissa was shot
but dude i cannot wait for theo and parrish to be unleashed and start kicking the hunters and anukites asses. If we cant get halwyn, if we cant deuc, then get those two. And hopefully peter kicks some butt too. But I don't trust him or theo or deuc going into this finale. If scott is down for the count, any 3 of them could use that opportunity to steal his alpha spark. All 3 of them could just be pretending to be on scotts side and if they did I'd never forgive the show, not the writers but the show I'd never forgive that for. And when I say I'd never forgive over being pissed off, you know how serious I am.
another hope of mine is that cause we saw the nemetons on the map and scott realizes his team is outnumbered so he decided to call backup and a swarm of supernaturals come out of nowhere, Im talking berserkers, kanimas, hellhounds, etc. just coming out to help scott or at least scare away the other hunters. Cause now apparently gerard and co. just want to take out beacon hills creatures I guess. Most likely it won't happen but I just am hoping one creature like an oni or ghost rider shows up to help scott out.
There's nothing relatable about Monore IMO. She wants every supernatural dead for the actions of one (La Bete). She's killing innocent supernatural bc of what they are, not bc of their actions. She's just as bad as Gerard
Scott gets pissed a lot, but he rarely every does anything. Jennifer almost killed his mother, and his best friend's father, yet Scott was still going to let her live. He's a puss.
Only Liam or Hayden can steal Scott's spark. Deucalion's a good guy now, and he's already an alpha, meaning he wouldn't need Scott's spark. But I would keep a close eye on Theo and Peter. I could see either of them trying something
As cool as that is, its doubtful. Sounds expensive to have an all out battle, and just unrealistic for TW.
I like it. That particular rule shows how a 'True Alpha' is different from the average Alpha. They gained that Alpha spark through a different mean, so it makes sense that it can only be taken through different means.
Liam wouldn't have been a true alpha. He would've been an average alpha. Taking a true alpha's spark doesn't make you a true alpha, so Liam would kill Scott to become a normal alpha, and then Theo would kill Liam to become a normal alpha. That was the plan.
Theo didn't even make the list. How tf does Theo Raeken not make the list for best villains? He did what no one else could do. Theo infiltrated the pack, and killed Scott. That will forever rank him as top villain to me. Douglas wasn't all that great. He was kinda in the background, but La Bete had a massive body count. He was badass. This list is bs. End of story
there is just 3 main things i want from this finale:
1.i want a cameo from either the other creatures or the GR and to help scott out and not end up betraying him in the end
2.i want as many friendly interactions and deadly interactions between characters who have never interacted, as many as possible.
3.this doesnt need to happen necessarily but I would like if peter and theo did survive, became members of scotts pack and if we're lucky become true alphas like scott, without having to take a life. I'd technically want all villians redeemed but I know it probably won't happen, I am 99.9% sure the anukite, gerard and kate are going to bite the dust this sunday.
other than that, I really don't care about the ships, the reunions, or whatever else
I feel like there haven't been enough ass kicking this season. Its their final 10 episodes, I expected more fighting, but it seems like Scott is just trying to avoid a fight at all cost. They shot his mother, what more is there to do?
Theo and Peter can't be true alphas. Not only are they remorseless murderers, but true alphas only come around every 100 years or so.
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Don't try calling me a troll. You probably didn't even read the last reply I made to you on the first thread. I could care less if people post on my thread, you don't even know my reasons for posting, so don't assume you know me.
Kev can predict what is going on because the writers are not original (no pun intended) they are more or less predictible these days, it is even easier if you got a good intuition and are aware of common tropes, cliches and plots, which I imagine Kev is as he is one of the few level headed users on this wiki....that or he is nicking scripts and reading them haha
Nah. It's bc I'm psychic. But it's not like the writers are making it difficult. They're predictable and repetitive. It's honestly not hard to make predictions with TVD/TO. For example, I knew Tyler was gonna die in 8x03 before the season even started. They're obvious af.