I haven't seen the episode yet because I have to wait until tomorrow for the subtitles, but I read that it was very good but only with Stefan and Enzo returning to the life and Caroline having a scene badass, I can say it was a very good episode hehe
I also don't hate Alaric but I don't think it was necessary for him to return, I think he must stay dead, I don't want to sound bad because when Stefan died I really was desperate to see him come back to life so I understand a bit to his fans but honestly speaking, his return is unnecessary.
Caroline had incredibles badass moments in season 2 and also in season 3, when she kicked Damon's ass is one of my favorite scenes of TVD XD
Me either, he felt unnecessary. I do see how fans see it from both sides. But of course the main three wont stay dead for good. I just hated it more because they tried this stunt last season final with Jeremy, it kinda felt overused.
Oh yes I loved it when she kicked Damon's ass, I loved that episode Brave New World. The first 7 episodes of season 2 are my fav all for Caroline's journey. I love them heaps.
Jeremy's resurrection was a big mistake, Elena made this great episode (4x15) and everything was wasted with his return, he must've not come back to life, I don't know what the writers were thinking to bring him back, then Bonnie dead and then Bonnie resurrection, now Enzo, Stefan (altough I'm happy for both) and Alaric also resurrected and most likely is that Damon will do too in the other season, the dead on TVD is now like a joke :l
Caroline had the best story in season 2, she was all just amazing, because of her I became a big fan of this program, I now can't help but love her <3
I was referring to 3x4 when she saved her father and kicked Damon's ass, that was better ;)
100% agree, I feel exactly the same. It made everything after 4x15 pointless, and a real waste. Death is a real joke, I cannot stand to see this continue. What does bringing Alaric back really do, other than make the characters happy. Everyone has mourned Alaric, he has been dead for 3 seasons, its time to let go.
I loved her aswell, and became a fan of her too in season 2.
I just saw the episode and I didn't like it, think was boring and too much Delena for my taste, the only good thing was Caroline and Stefan and Enzo returning to life IMO. Although incredibly I cry a little Bonnie hehe how Markos died was awful, I think he has been one of the most boring villains on TVD, he didn't cause any kind of impact, I really expected much more in this final.
Caroline is my biggest reason to continue watching this program :)
I do agree way too much Delena, now Damon has Alaric back and Enzo are both being made regulars. Does Julie Plec really not like adding new regulars who are female. The show keeps increasing the males in the regular cast. There is no balance at all.
Markos was a boring villain.
I do agree, Caroline is a reason to watch, I do like Stefan aswell. But Elena has just gotten so boring, I dont like her as much anymore. Delena has ruined her, and its got nothing to do with me not being a Delena fan anymore, they were great in season 1, but after that it got old fast.
Delena has ruined Elena, even more to Damon although I've always hated him, been injured quite the character of Stefan and also now practically the show revolves around this couple and is something that I detest, really the writers believe that they are making happy to the fans but with all these Delena scenes they're forgetting to the many fans who hate this couple, if Caroline and Stefan weren't in this program, I would have stopped a long time ago in see that program, I hate Damon and Delena with burning passion.
I'm happy with Enzo as a regular, he's a pretty interesting character.
You and I have in common our like/love for Stefan and Caroline :)
I agree, it has ruined the show for me, I often roll my eyes whenever they are together on-screen. I enjoy every other aspect of the show, I would prefer story and mythlogy to delena and relationships.
Its so nice to find someone who agrees with me, I know many friends who no longer watch because of Delena and Damon, and sadly the ratings are dropping because of it.
I dont mind Enzo, hes ok, I just would of prefered if they added a new female regular instead of increasing the guys. But I'd rather Enzo be a regular, and Alaric have stayed dead.
I do wonder how Bonnie and Damon will be brought back, even though I'm rolling my eyes at the thought of Bonnie getting her second resurrection after season 5.
Something I noticed is that so far the only main characters to stay dead are female with Vicki and Jenna, yet the male ones Alaric and Jeremy get resurrected.
YAY so nice to see another person who has something in common with Stefan and Caroline.
Yes, I saw TO and although I didn't likeD many things in the program, I think is a very good show, the finale was amazing, Even Phoebe could act on that episode XD but talking seriously yeah, I love TO :)
Well, I love TVD more because of Caroline and Stefan but I have to accept that this season the story was pretty bad, I think TO was much better, in the historyline, much more action and not Delena that is a big plus XD
I do wonder what will happened on TO season 2, now that all the family is starting to return. I wonder if Kol returned too. I suppose the resurrection and return of the original family unlike everyone on VD at least these original characters didn't get much story the first time and all died so quickly, so I might cut them all some slack, and they were not regulars. We shall see.
I completely agree, it was such a waste, and poor Nathaniel, to come on set to film 2 seconds, I'd feel cheated. Why they didn't bother to use him for the flashback with Klaus, Mikhael and Elijah, I'll never know.
I cant wait for season 2 in general. I hope VD has a good season too, and the show reboot's itself.
Yeah, I think when they told to Nate that he'd be just in that scene was humiliating for him, I would be upset in his place, his character and he deserve much more, I really want that the second season is good for him :)
My hope for TVD isn't so good but well, I just want a good historyline for Caroline and Stefan.
I'd feel upset and not too pleased with that. He deserves so much more. The whole purpose of his death was so Jeremy's tattoo's would reveal the map and get the cure. Jeremy died, but then he gets resurrected undoing any consequences for killing millions of vampires. I hope season 2 is good for him too.
Same here, I hope Caroline and Stefan have a good season.
Hello sorry for my belated response but I hadn't checked my notifications :)
Elena can kill all the people she wants, she can deceive, betray, be the most hypocritical, but for the writer's eyes she will always be the "Saint Elena ", that is why now I can't stand her character, the death of those vampires was one of the worst acts done in the show but of course if it was all for the sake of Elena then all is good -.-
I agree they always try to paint Elena in the spotlight as a saint, and just because shes the main character, not everything has to evolve around her. I completely agree with it, thats was the episode where I could no longer take Elena seriously, I just felt season 4 was when the writing for elena began to suck bigtime. I also hate how Jeremy was resurrected just because Elena needs him and shes an orphan, well hello what about poor Tyler, who is also an orphan.
Agreed, I feel so bad for characters like Tyler and sometimes Bonnie, they are treated like shit really, especially Tyler, I think Michael is a good actor and he deserves much more, I think the best for Tyler is get out off, is sad to see that characters like Jeremy or even Matt with poor actors and boring storylines sometimes are better treated that a character with much more potential like Tyler and with a better actor.
Jeremy is an unnecessary character that only is there to be the last Elena's family and they prefer to sacrifice great characters as Kol and Tyler, even Caroline with this lack of history lately -.-
I completely agree, omg Tyler is the worst, like every season his character leaves town and gets taken out of the story, why does he continue to get treated like this. I feel so bad for Michael, it must hurt also when your treated like this, and actors depart and characters get resurrected and stuff, and they shove people back into the plot.
I completely agree, Jeremy's resurrection was the first time I felt the show truely jumped the shark, I rolled my eyes when he was brought back. It felt more fan fiction than an actual plot.
Jeremy's resurrection didn't lead anywhere, his character barely interacted with Elena and she didn't care much for him in season 5. He really should of stayed dead.
I dont know if you watched Buffy in the past, but OMG that show at least made better efforts of using there characters better, at least every regular was in every episode, and they dont pull Tylers or Bonnie's on you with disappearing characters from the plots.
Agreed with you in all, Elena only cared in this season about Damon, seriously, her reaction about Stefan's death was awful -.-
The writers are biased with this whole story Delena and they don't realize how they are destroying their characters, and also are destroying other characters along the way. Damon tried and participated in an attack to Jeremy's life again and Elena didn't even know about that, seriously? Jeremy even dare to have a good deal with this man who has tried / killed to him in other times WTF? that's stupid even in a fictional program XD Characters pointless like Jeremy should die definitely IMO
Nope, I never watched Buffy, but I heard it was a good show :)
I know hey it was terrible, honestly it felt so out of character for her to not care more, as if its like delena has taken over her mind. Like seriously she should care a little more than what we got regardless if she isn't with him anymore.
I agree, I felt this way for a while now, that flashback in the season 3 final was my first sign that they were simply pinning for delena and adding in a flashback. That flashback should of came earlier not added later to make delena more belivable.
I agree, Jeremy no offence to the actor hes ok, but Jeremu should die and should not have been resurrected.
It felt like Julie Plec only came up with the idea of resurrecting him as it was like wow this sounds great, and had no planning for season 5 with how to use him. Seriously he added nothing to season 5 at all, if he wasn't in it, it does not effect the story, apart from Bonnie in some scenes, but other than that half the time Bonnie was off somewhere else without him, so he wasn't needed.
Aww ok, it is a good show. Its how I got into VD in the first place, because I already saw a vampire show before.
Hello, it might require alot of work to try and remember for everyone apart than main. On the character appearances page, the only reason just main characters are combined for both shows, and not minor or recurring, is it would require more work and would make the page much longer than it already it.
Maybe we could put it to a vote, and see what others think?
I was actually meaning on character pages. I thought of it because I saw on Carol Lockwood and Elizabeth Forbes pages, they had a total number appearances they are in with the episodes they are featured in with it. I was just seeing individually what the admins think first. :)
I understand, I think maybe the issue is time, it would require alot to maintain and do every recurring character and keep updated. Maybe I'd say no to minor characters, since anyone in 1 or 2 episodes, it wouldn't matter how many episodes they are in. But maybe we can limit it to anyone who has appeared in 5 or more episodes.
Hi!!I don't know when you're be able to see this but someone is filling the Originals page(under the comments for the upcoming episode A closer Walk With Thee) with some offensive in my opinion material.Please check it out as soon as possible(it 's been going on for about 15 minutes now)
If it is possible please could you create 1-3 characters for my Vampire Diaries Fanfiction. I would really love for you to do me a favour, thank you so much if you do. Please read the blog carefully. Thanks for taking your time to read this.