Hi, we've talked on the PLL wikia from time to time and my name is Selena. The reason I am writing this message is if you could please take the time to look through my original series on my own wikia. As well as potentially also spreading the word to other users who might be interested! Hey, so the day is finally here! A week after the premiere of Horrifically Wicked Tales (the pilot being Ding! Dong! The Bitch Is Dead!) , we come to you with the series premiere of Bloodlines, an Inferno spin-off as well. So, while Horrifically Wicked Tales is an anthology series (meaning it reboots at the end of each season) and hit series like The Devil Within, Handsome Little Liarsand Inferno have full season orders(20+ episodes) this series is more of a limited series format. Meaning that it consists of 10-13 episodes(still deciding on the exact number of episodes though) and each season will focus on a different member of O.R.B.S. Hence the title Bloodlines(clever no?)! Oh and I almost forgot to mention that the first three episodes of this season are set 2 or so weeks between episodes Highway to Hell and Born Under A Bad Sign from its sister showwhich was our introduction to the Inferno Universe). But don't fret cause by the end of the third episode of this series, the two timelines will be caught up! If you need to see the auditions page for Inferno and Bloodlines (or want to audition characters for either series) then just click on the link in parenthesis and it will take you straight to it over at the Pretty Little Liars Wikia (http://pretty-little-liars.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Fearless_Diva/Inferno_(_A_Selena_Original_Story))
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Okay that should be fine, every now and then. As long as its not like daily, it should be fine.
I'm good thank-you. Yes I still watch, but TO I'm more invested in, TVD I'm loosing interest, but am still watching. I guess TO I like more than TVD atm.
I haven't kept up with Pll news, and I'm hopeful Jenna, Lucas and Noel do appear, we got told they would months ago. So I hope so, but I haven't enjoyed season 6, and sara and cece as A just didn't sit well with me.
Yeah, the last thing I want is to spam the wikia (even if its unintentionally) so I 'll keep it to a minimum. LOL all I want is to spread awareness to my wikia an the series I have on there! I'm glad ur okay though! <3 I am feeling the same way as you regarding TVD/TO. I stopped watching after season 5 of TVD. The Originals is actually engaging me and it feels like TVD from the Kevin Williamson era (with the sirelines at war, the phrophecy, etc.). IDK if you watch them but I wish the TVD universe was more like the Arrowverse(which consists of Arrow, The Flash, Vixen, Constantine and the upcoming Legends of Tomorrow) in the sense that at least the latter(arrowverse) actually tries to make it feel like the series are all part of one cohesive universe. Other than the single episode appearence of the 4th season of TVD in the backdoor pilot and Klaus, Elijah and Rebekah coming back for the 100th episode... there hasn't been much crossover between the two shows. Like not to bash Julie but did she even think things out... the flashforwards basically reveal that there's 0 chance that at least Klaus sirelines is dead since Damon and Stefan are both alive as is Caroline. And while the ratings for TVD aren't so bad post-Nina, Julie should still consider going out on top.There's no sense in dragging the story that much more. I mean, with the originals still doing well(ish) they could tranfer over TVD characters over there. Sorry for the rant, but you know what I mean? TVD just isn't what is used to be.
Thats okay, and I understand why you want to do it.
I so understand, and yes TVD lost it itself after season 5. Infact Its funny the ratings drop occured after Katherine died and it never recovered.
I feel it jumped the shark in season 4, when Elena and Jeremy killed Kol, and Jeremy came back to life. Thats when I rolled my eyes, and the constant undoing of deaths it was just too much. I'm only watching VD because I like Stefan, Caroline and Bonnie, but I'm not engaged in it, half the time I'm not paying attention.
TO so feels like the old days of VD, and I love the sire line storyline. Flashbacks are so interesting, while VD they keep changing and undoing things, that doesn't make sense with previous flashbacks.
I agree no crossovers, and they haven't done any. I feel its too late to bother now, it just would feel so random to suddenly do them when the characters have been separated for 3 years. Plus Nina is gone, so it sucks.
I know what you mean with the arrow/flash etc. world doing crossovers SO much better, and yes I'm a big fan of those shows, and cant wait for legends of tommorw.
I hope Julie ends TVD, and not drag it on. She can just end it, and maybe one or two TVD characters can move to TO once TVD ends. Caroline seemed like she was set up to go to town, given Klaus mentioned he wanted to show it to her one day. If TO had to bring people in there, Caroline and Stefan. But I dont want Damon on there, well full-time.
No problem with the rant, I so get what you mean and agree, plus I'm sorry if I ranted on too.
Lol it's certainly nice to have someone who understands! :) Yeah, I noticed that too! Like why killed her off (and then say she's 100% dead and because of all the horrible things she's done...) especially when there were character who have done worse things than her? Exactly! Like if ur going to undo deaths, especially major ones like Jeremy's I just will stop caring about life or death scenario Julie presents cause the stakes just won't be there anymore. Meaning, that even if they die, you'll find a way to bring them back. What has always frustrated me is that even though you (TVD) had this amazing cast of rich character if it wasn't the trinity, then you were kind of pushed to the side. Nowadays Caroline and Bonnie have more to do, but how many times were Jeremy, Tyler and poor Matt pushed to the side? :P Mhmmm they lost a good opportunity by not doing cross-overs (usually that's what people assume you'll do when u create a spinn-off). I mean nowadays even shows that aren't from the same universe(i.e. Fox's Bones and Sleepy Hollow) are now having these cross-overs. I think it's the MCU effect and I don't mind, especially when it's organic. But yeah, unfortunately, it's too late now.... and that's what irritates tbh.
As for how long TVD should run? I have no clue... we're in what? The 7th season? Why not do what Fox did with GLEE and ABC Family(now renamed Freeform apparently) with PLL and renew the show for seasons. That way the writers have a chance to form an endgame and have two seasons do so. (final season could be a short one). Like I said, if some of the TVD Series regulars wanted to continue working with Julie, as you mentioned... Caroline was pretty much set up to move over to the show eventually if Candice decided. Bonnie would also organically make sense and could take Davina under her wing. Other characters like Steffan, Matt, Alaric and Damon I'd rather see pop up from time to time. Idk from what I've heard I think Paul is so over TVD lol at times I feel like he hates his job (I still love him though!) Eh, if you ranted I have no room to judge lol. Besides, I hope I'm not bothering you but it really is nice having someone to talk to about all this since most of my friends no longer watch the show.
I love The Flash (season 2 is shaping up to be awesome, even though I still miss Eddie!) and I am excited to see Killer Frost this season. Arrow had a bad season last year, but this time around, the storyline feels more "tight" and l like where it's going. LOL yeah, super excited about Legends of Tomorrow! I cannot wait to see what they do for sure.
Exactly so, I hated that so much. It made the entire Elena turning off her humanity and burning her house pointless because Jeremy was brought back. I was so pleased with Julie for killing him, and I loved the arc, and accepted Jeremy dead, once he came back, I rolled my eyes and was annoyed. Same with Alaric. Plus Jeremy was pushed to the sidev anyways, he should of just stayed dead, and in the season 5 final crossed over to the afterlife.
Very true, its way too late. Plus when a spin-off starts off they do crossovers in the first season. Heck then they stop doing them later on, once the spin-off finds itself. But now TO and TVD, its way too late to bother trying.
Thats right with an endgame. CW never does that with shows, look at Supernatural its going on for what 11 years now, and they seriously think it can go to 13 or 14 seasons. I suppose the actors really like the pay, and want to help their families. But If I was an actor, I couldn't stay on the same show for that long, I'd probaly get bored. lol
Yes Caroline seems like it would work, and I forgot about Bonnie too. But yeah given Damon, Elena and Stefan are major, maybe my idea of Stefan moving wouldn't work. But I'm cool if Caroline and Bonnie move. I hope we get more from them in TVD without Elena, I want those two to share more screentime, cant believe it took 4 episodes to even give them a single scene, seriously.
No, your not bothering me at all, its nice to talk to someone who likes the show. I'm fine with it, its fun too. I enjoy replying to comments like this.
Flash season 2 is good so far, and I'm enjoying it. I look forward to Killer Frost too. I'm glad season 4 of Arrow has improved from last season, funny that Sara's death started the terrible season off, yet once shes resurrected the season has improved, not that her character had anything to really do with it, but I like the timing.
I cant wait for Legends of Tommorw, and it starts in January, more excited that the pilot is a 2-parter, I gather it will air as either a 2-hour or they will put it into Flash and Arrow's timeslot for that week and its a pilot over 2 nights event.
Personally I'd prefer it on a third night, so I can watch all three shows over 3 nights. Unless they plan to put Arrow and Flash on a longer break after xmas and start them up in March with no reruns every week until the season ends, and let LOT have a couple months to itself. We shall see.
It undid everything for sure! I mean not trying to get too nerdy but its like how in the comics a superhero will "die" but you know they won't be dead for long. Thus, there' s no suspense when you know that they will come back. Now, with TVD for example I know there's no way Julie will kill off any major character and not bring them back somehow. Which the stakes aren't there. I have days when I wish Kevin Williamson hadn't left cause it seems that's when things really started going downhill. I mean, season 2 was a master piece for sure! Yeah, acting wise... I don't think I could stick around for long. Which is why I'm not mad at Nina for leaving, I think from the get-go she was only planning on six seasons and gone(wether or not TVD continued was irrelevant probably). I would at least try to do a few indie movies or minor roles in movies in between seasons. I think if The Originals is still around before TVD then the big three(Elena, Daimon and Stefan) should stay away (like maybe an appearence here and there) but Bonnie and Caroline like I said, could definately be of use and have big roles on TO.
As for Arrow, ur right it is kind of perfectly timed. For me, it feels like Sarah was the beginning of the train wreck that was season 3. Sarah's death really should have never happened. Even more so, the explanation was wonky at best. But again, I just hope SHE's not the one in the grave lmao. Do you have any predictions on that? I certainly don't think it Felicity cause they made way too obvious it could be her. Apparently though, Oliver proposes in episode 9! <3 As for Legends, do they have anywhere to play it though? If iZombie stay a limited episode order, then there will be a space there. Mondays has Supergirl on CBS and since Greg has ownership over that show too, I don't think they'll make it compete against it. Fridays is out. So the odds are it will either be place behind Arrow or Flash or they'll move it to Thursday? I mean, TGIT is targeting the same female demo as TO and TVD... so countering that with a more male-skewed show might the way to go. I honestly don't know what to make of it though because CW renewed all their series last year. It's hard to predict when they don't have enough hours as it is. I wish they would take the OUAT approach and take one long hiatus but I think they want to have all three shows airing at the same time come January(no official date but that's around when it will premiere). I think Continuum will be DOA though and will not start till later in the year.
I understand what you mean with comics and you know they come back. I do miss Kevin Williamson, because Vicki and Jenna stayed dead. Its funny how only the female main characters die, but the male ones resurrect. Season 2 was fantastic, and I did enjoy season 3. Its funny how once Elena became a vampire the show lost itself, not saying she is the cause, but again the timing was there. Yeah I dont blame her for leaving either. Yep I agree with you on that with the big three but not bonnie or caroline. It does makes sense.
I so hope she wont die again, I doubt they would kill her off yet again Sara. I dont think its Felicity, I think its Quentin Lance for sure, it makes sense given where the story is going.
Thats true it could go in that show's slot, as theres no way it will go Mondays, because Supergirl and Gotham air there at 8pm.
I like the idea of a longer hiatus, but yeah they seem to want all three at once. I agree with Continuum too. If they did do the OUAT approch, then they would have to air it twice a week in both shows slots, because 15 episodes wouldn't be able to work, unless they have Legends taking the January and February slot for Arrow or Flash, and then the last 8 episodes of Legends would air alongside both shows, just not the first few while Arrow and Flash are on hiatus, if that makes sense.
Julie it seems like just cared too much about the romance and lost sight of the carefully crafted balance that Kevin built. Back then, he had the perfect dosage of romance, drama, mythology, etc. Yep, I don't think Elena becoming a vampire was a problem per se, just the execution didn't work. I also hated last season and how she essentially became human again right? It's so repetitve and its gotten as stale and old as OUAT having a memory wipe every season lol. I know what you mean and even when they re-appeared (i.e. Vicky as ghost and Jenna as a hallucination and flashback if I remember correctly) it felt organic and added to the story rather than distract us. Well, with Elena/Nina gone off the show, I don't think she'd be stupid enough to kill off Caroline and I've lost track of how many time Bonnie has "died". While I would have hated them if she had stayed dead since as you pointed out it's always a female character getting killed. I also think it would have been an organic way of the character's departure. IDK you but the graduation episode when Bonnie is graduating but is a ghost essentially and the other two are talking bout all the fun they'll have as a trio was so sad. I do think that if they decided to kill of any major characters they'll wait till the final season. Unfortunately, I see Bonnie getting the short end of the stick there and possibly Stefan. Call me crazy but I think Julie may not haveSteroline be endgame (but I dont think she'll end up with Klaus either). I think if they can get Nina to come back for an episode or two in the final season, then Delena will have a happy ending.
I am definately cruious to see where they put Legends and when it premieres. It's definately going to be interesting! On The Flash though, after last night's episode... I'm just not feeling Tom Cavanaugh anymore. He's a great actor and Harrison Wells/Eobard Thawne AKA Reverse Flash was a highlight for me. But the ending scene after Teddy Sears' Jay Garrick saying that that the Earth-2 Harrison Wells is not who he says he is has now become repetitive. Like if he mentors Barry again only to hurt him in the end, I will say it that I called it and saw it from a mile away. Do you have any idea who Zoom could be? A lot of people are saying it could be an Earth-2 Barry or an Earth-2 Eddie and its why they haven't shown an actor playing Zoom yet (it's just been a voice over from what I heard). LOL and well we know from what Nina said that playing Elena and Katherine was hard work! So maybe they're holding out for the double duty till they absolutely need to? Thoughts???
I agree she cares too much for that and lost sight, unlike Kevin. They worked better as a team, I prefer it when Julie was with Kevin, leaving her in charge on her own as showrunner didn't work. Shes a good writer, just leaving her on her own didn't work out. Oh yes with Elena and I know what you mean with OUAT, I'm behind on that show, I have no idea, I just randomly stopped for no reason after the first episode of season 5. It was organic when they reappeared. I agree, it was sad that scene. If they had to resurrect someone at the end of season 5, and I'm against it, but if they had too I'd vote for Lexi over Alaric, only based on the fact she died after one episode, and giving her a second chance at least it wasn't someone who we came to know onscreen for years. But yeah I'm against all of that.
It makes sense to wait until the final season, but even then it wouldn't have impact because they died so many times, the final death would be like okay yeah whatever, nobody will care. I felt zero for Stefan dying infront of Caroline in season 5, I almost had to laugh, I know its cruel, but it just didn't have the impact and emotion like early seasons, and we knew he would be back anyways.
I can see Steroline and Delena as endgame too.
Yeah I didn't feel it either with Harrison, I was thinking to myself last night geeze he was fantastic last season, that this earth 2 Harrison has so much to live up too, it may be boring. Yeah if he hurts Barry again, I'd probaly feel bored, been there done that. As for the Zoom, I think it could be Barry or even Eddie, or perhaps what if its Barry's father, that could be a big twist. It is hard playing double duty, it really is, so I hope they do it when they need too.
Also the earth 2 plot is good, but I dont want too much of it, because the primary earth is what I care about. It feels more like earth 2 will be like a place if someone dies in the primary earth, they will bring that person back from earth 2. So I hope the opposite happens too, someone is dead on earth 2 but alive in the primary earth.
She really does and while some have praised this season as "fresh" without Nina, I still think they should have ended it at 6. Like she hasn't learned from her mistakes (Julie) cause if she had she'd give the characters who aren't Daimon and Stefan more to do. Nowadays, Enzo rarely serves a good enough purpose and Matt is still just a glorfied prop at times. I hope I'm not sounding too harsh or cynical but part of me resents her for turning a show I had to tune in week to week into what it is now.Their ratings aren't what they used to be either. Do they want to end like Gossip Girl and 90210 who overstayed their welcome and by the end of their run barely a million viewers were tuning in? Sometimes I feel like Julie doesn't get the meaning behind "going out on top" and would rather limp her way to the finish line. Prior to 2012, I would understand the hesitation to end TVD, but since the premiere of Arrow, the network has made a turn for the better. TVD is no longer number (Flash has that spot) and they have other hits that could replace it well. Do you get what I mean? Lexie/Arielle Kebel always gets the short end of the stick in this. Her character should have been revived over Enzo imo. She was a fan favorite longer than he was and I always felt they could have explored that character even more. Do you think though that Nina will at least come back for the series finale (if not as special guest star in the final season)? God, what if she gets too big in the movies and can't come back. Will they just end the series without Daimon being happy? Tbh, while I love Nina, they should have left Katherine in limbo and let Elena die to be in piece with Jenna and her parents. She never wanted to be a vampire. I think it would have been a more gutsy move if they had killed off Elena (like in the books) and had her stayed there. Like maybe she just makes a cameo in the series finale as like "spirit" /guardian angel protecting her friends from wherever it is she is.
As for The Flash, once again, I love Tom but hopefully past this season we don't see him anymore. If the Reverse flash does come back into play (which he will imo) there's no need for Tom when we saw that who killed Barry's mom was played by someone else. Like at this point, even though its just one episode it's already feeling repetitve. Especially with the ending scene I mentioned. Barry's father on Earth-2 would be an interesting twist as well. Who knows what they'll do! I get what you mean though, I don't mind these glimpses into Earth-2 but I dont want it to take away from our Earth. I still have this feeling that Eddie isn't dead (and wether or not he is will be irrelevant cause I feel like Rick Cosnett will appear again as Earth-2 Eddie). For me, I wish last season they had worked harder to make Eddie and Barry friends early on (despite the Iris thing) so that it would have had an even bigger impact for Barry. Ronnie for sure I know isn't dead since (no body, no death) Robbie said that we hadn't seen the last of him.
LOL You need to tune back in to OUAT, this Dark Swan arc has been fantastic!
Exactly agree, it should of ended at 6. I'm so glad my Buffy ended at 7 seasons, and didn't god forbid continue without its lead, even though the rest of the cast wanted to continue, both Sarah and the creator agreed to end it, if only Julie Plec had learnt that, and ended it after 6. I know, the characters are barely getting much to do, and it annoys me. The ratings have gone low haven't they. She sure doesn't know the meaning of ending on a high, and its funny how supernatural is on season 11 and is rating better than TVD. Yes I get what you mean by all of that.
So true that Lexi got the short end of the stick, and Enzo was revived, I have to roll my eyes at Julie when it feels like she wants to prop the male. I hope I'm not harsh, but its true, have you noticed that she has never added a new female regular to the show ever, only she keeps removing ones, and now we have just two remaining, okay Nina left, I'll give her that. The season 5 final just makes me so mad, It was so predictable that Alaric came back, and of course Grams and Lexi moved on. Anyway that rant over.
Yes I think Nina will return for the final episode, much like how Mulder returned for the series final of X-Files after he left the show. Wow to think it could end without Nina would shock me. I would of loved it if Elena did die and got peace. I would of loved it if they did the book storylines, and had her return as a spirit/guardian in the final episode to help her friends.
Another thing I hate is how Julie Plec is so against adding other supernatural elements and things, and continues to recycle hybrids and other things similar to vampires over and over. I so wanted book supernatural creatures, and it will never be. That would of added something fresh to the series and got me excited.
I wished they stuck more to the books more closely with plotlines, but keeping the characters personalities the same and what they did in season 1 and 2. I so wished Meredith had been introduced in season 5 as Elena's new roomate. I was so sure they would do that, instead they turned her into a Fell.
Yeah thats right, theres no need for him with the reverse flash. I wished they had done more with Eddie and not leave things too late and made him friends with him.
I'm glad Linda is back, only because I was going to myself how can Iris work there and not bump into Linda. I'm glad she wasn't brought in just to serve as Barry's love interest and then just disapper and never seen again. The show could do with more female regulars, since we only have two.
I think Ronnie isn't dead either, we saw no body. Robbie doing the new x-files mini series probaly explains why he is absent. But I do wonder how if he comes back it will effect Firestorm. I kinda want him to stay dead, because it would feel like they are pulling a Sara with the constant think hes dead, no hes alive, no hes dead and so on. Plus if Killer Frost shows up, I do wonder what they will do with Ronnie. I am curious about him, if he returns.
On that note, I know Flash is lighter than Arrow. But I feel that at least Team Arrow will always stick together. Yet team Flash, we already had the group betrayed by Harrison and it sticks, and when Killer Frost comes Caitlyn may betray the group. So in a way Team Flash has more drama than Team Arrow ever will, and it sticks. As nobody on Team Arrow will ever become a full fledged villain, but who knows really.
I hope too soon, I might try and catch up over the xmas hiatus, intime for the 100th episode with OUAT. I hope Ruby/Red returns, I was so sad to see she was completely ignored in season 4.
Yeah, Buffy ended in an organic way, as did Charmed(though Idk if you watched that series) and even a non-genre show like Beverly Hills 90210 (90's version) knew when it was time to call it quits. That show was still doing well in the rating even though it was on like its 9th season! But the creator and cast wanted the audience to have good memories of said show as opposed to have it overstay its welcome. You bring up a good point, Supernatural has lasted this long because they reinvent themseleves in a fresh way, so each time they do, it doesn't feel bad. I like the approach they take and the mythology that they tackle. I do think the show will continue until the two leads decide to call it quits. Lmao as of now, I think they want to hit season 15 and end it then ;)! I do think the reason it's rating better its because at least the showrunner hasn't lost sight of the show like Julie has. Sadly, I too wish she'd incorporate more supernatural creatures. I mean, the books had kitsunes, angels, etc. The heretics, the travelers are also just recycled as you said. When she first introduced the hybrids, I thought it was cool and genius, but come on Julie, once again, she's beating a dead horse! Nah, ur not harsh, I've noticed that too! all the major deaths of the series have been females. I get their trying to keep the eye candy but what's the point of having Enzo if he brings nothing to the plot for the entirety of season 5. As of now, he just screams "Damon from season 1 2.0 version". Michael Malarkey is hot, as in Zach Roerig but what they really done with their characters?
I remember reading on interviews that Julie and Kevin's biggest regret was killing Grams so soon... You'd think Julie had remember this and learn from her mistakes. Lexi, Rebekah(had she not been moved to the original right away) and countless other female characters would have been great candidates for promotion imo. Ugh, Meredith, they messed that up badly didn't they? Since they didn't introduce her from the beginning, it would have worked best and more organic if she was introduced in college. They did quite a disservice. I get this feeling though had Torrey and Paul not broken up, she'd probably would have been promoted. But we can't change the past. I swear though, I wish at times I was a writer or had input on some of these shows. Yeah, I would have like Elena coming back in that fashion. I do hope they end sometime soon cause we could have Sebastian Stan (Mad Hatter on OUAT and now Bucky/Winter Soldier in the MCU) situation on our hands. The longer the show goes on, the less likely we might be to see Elena. Think about it, if she gets too famous on the big screen, she might be too busy to be able to come back.
As For Flash... Couldn't have said it better myself! But other than those nitpicks, I don't mind the show. Well, other me not liking Iris/Barry(not because she's African-American, but I just find teh pairing boring). I do think the Killer Frost we see this season will be from Earth-2... I don't think our Caitlin will go bad. Last season, I did wish Linda/Barry had lasted longer and it made me really dislike Iris b/c of her actions. Like as soon as Barry was happy, she gave him mixed signals. He breaks up with Linda, and she (iris) wants nothing to do with him. Like make up your mind chica! :P As for Ronnie, I prefer him as Firestorm over the new guy. Again, not because Jay Jackson is African-American, but I just liked the banter between Stein/Ronnie. Did you know that over on Arrow, the Constantine cross-over gave the series a significant rise in the ratings? Whoa! <3
Well on OUAT, Ruby and Mulan are teaming up with Merida this season and thus appearing. Also, rumor has it 5B the series is exploring the Underworld and Greek Mytholy thanks to Hercules(the movie they made back in the day). For the 100th episode: Sydney Glass, The Blind witch from Hansel and Gretel, Cora (Barbara Hershey) and Pan are thus far confirmed to appear.
I actually found the buffy final very good it wraps up nicely, and I've seen so many terrible last episodes. Yes I did watch Charmed. I've never seen the original 90210, but I know what you mean by that, and it good that it knew when to quit. I like that it was truly a 90's show going for the entire 90's, and ending in 2000.
Yes thats very true with Supernatural, I think so too, but 15 seasons to me is far too many, even if a shows great, end it on a high lol, to think Jensen would be 41 if it did go there, and he was 26 when it started wow. I just feel what will the last villain in the last season be, a return of Lucifer. I just would be happy if it ended sooner rather than later, just so it ends on high. Its ashame that a show going this long, they keep on killing off characters unless your Castiel or Crowley, but I've probaly forgotten someone I bet. I loved Baby, that episode was my favourite episode in years.
I so would love Kitsunes and angels over heretics and travellers in a heartbeat. I did love Hybrids, but after season 3 it got boring. I agree if they add nothing why keep them. And Why do we need Enzo, he is Damon 2.0, and I hope hes not paired with Bonnie. I hate how the writers have to pair people who are not with anyone, why not them paired with someone who isn't a regular. Its why I never (sorry if you liked them) got into Bonnie/Jeremy, it felt so random in season 2, when neither had a single scene together until they wanted them together. It was like they are the only main characters who are single, just pair them. I'm glad they are apart. I've always loved Bonnie on her own anyways, when she was with Jeremy I just found them both boring, they were both better on their own.
I wished she did learn this from her mistakes. Its interesting she regrets killing off you know it female characters, but her male character mistakes she brings them back. Why didn't she bring back Grams and Lexi if she regreted it, but she brings back Alaric and Jeremy and also Enzo. It makes no sense, sometimes I wonder if Julie writes more as a fan or fangirl than a writer. All those would of been great promotions for female characters. I think had they not split Paul and Torrey, she would of been a regular, but yeah we cant change the past. I'm sure your ideas as a writer would be way better.
I do hope it ends soon, or we will have as you said a situation like Sebastian Stan. Thats why the show should end after season 8 tops. On that note, if TVD gets to season 8 it will be longest running vampire show, since both Buffy and True Blood did 7 seasons. I so hope it does end after 7, making that trend continue all vampire shows dont go past 7 seasons. lol
Me too, I enjoy the show alot like I do Arrow. Yeah they are a bit boring, they feel better as friends, I just cant picture them as a couple. Aww I didn't think of Killer Frost from earth 2, and yeah I hope she doesn't go bad either. I dont want the trio split, like the Oliver/Felicity/Diggle trio. Those two trio's never should be split or killed off. I wished it was longer too, and I did hate Irish for that, it was annoying. I love Ronnie too, and dont care for the new guy. I loved the ronnie/stein pairing.
Wow thats great it got good ratings, I hope it will mean more appearances in the future. Constantine could just move to Legends of Tommorw full-time.
Wow awesome I'm so glad they are back. Oh my, thats quite a guest list for the 100th episode, interesting alot of dead characters, that must mean something, and must be the underworld. If they do greek mythlogy, I wonder if Hercules or Xena will appear, I doubt the later can given the rights to her character, but Hercules has been done so many times.
I feel like with Supernatural, they are just trying to break records. I believe with this season they have outlasted Smallville. That's why I said 15 season cause that would put them at 15 years since they just celebrated their 10th anniversary. I do love Castiel and I'm so happy they have kept him around. Correct me if I'm wrong but there's got to be a reason they have yet to introduce God right? Call me crazy but maybe their saving him for a reason. :P Lol there's a part of me that misses the old WB though. Have you heard of the Gilmore Girls revival? I never watched it but kudos to Netflix for tapping into old favorites. No worries, I felt the same way about Jeremy and Bonnie. There was zero chemistry. Jeremy with Vicky or Anna? That made sense. Tyler and Matt being paired with Caroline, those were both quite organic. But every now and then Julie just spazzes out imo and doesn't do it right. Now, Klaroline, I liked their banter (and Idk if u ship them) but I felt like Julie just had them have sex in the 100th episode for no good reason. Rather than help the plot. it hinder it b/c she just slept with the man who cause so many grief to each and every one of them. If she wanted to have them together, she should have gone about it a different way. You put perfectly though, I think maybe there are time she goes too fan girl on us. Maybe sometime she doesn't think with her head and the reason she brings back all these men is for the opportunity to see them shirtless or with little clothing? ;) Ugh True Blood, now there's a show which had a horrible ending, I expected her to end up with at least one of the love triangle but nope.
As for Flash, I will hand it to them though, unlike Laurel... Iris is at least tolerable and it looks like the writers have learnt from their mistakes. I'm happy they are pushing the Wes-Allen romance down our throats like they tried with Laurel/Oliver in season 1. I really do hope our Caitlin stays intact and instead a secondary antagonist(just below Zoom) ends up being Earth-2 Caitlin. Do you think we will get a tease of her in the midseason finale or in 2B? Yeah, Jay did nothing for me, Robbie is charismatic and brought a lot to the table but yeah, I get what you mean about the whole dying not dying thing. Lmao maybe Ronnie is Flash's version of Sarah... I swear that girl has more lives than a cat! Constantine just felt so organic to have in the Arrowverse, it's a shame NBC just had no idea what to do with him at all. I hope they do have him pop back on and it doesn't remain as a one-off appearence. Have you watch Supergirl? Apparently, it could have been on the CW but Mark(the current CEO of the company) passed on it cause they were just setting up the Flash and he didn't they could do it. I still think that because Greg is in charge of all these DC shows, that at some point we will see them cross-over. It be a shame if they don't. :/
Yeah that true, but breaking records means nothing, its quality over quanity. Sure a show can go on for a long time, but its reputation once it ends is what helps its legacy. I know alot complain about smallville, x files (which is coming back) or charmed with its writing in later seasons. It is good to end on a high. I do like Castiel. Yes they haven't introduced god yet. I do miss the old WB so much.
I did hear about it with Gilmore Girls, and I agree good for them. So many old shows are returning. X-Files is back, Full House revival. Plus shows like Heroes and Prison are back too.
It's nice that someone else agrees with me on Jeremy and Bonnie. I agree Anna and Vicky made sense. Tyler and Matt with Caroline I agree. I didn't like them having sex for no reason.
I hated the True Blood ending so bad. I have so many issues with the final season.
They have learnt from their mistakes. I hope Laurel will finally improve without Sara when shes gone to Legends. Seems every season is all about Sara for her story. First season was all my sister is dead, season 2 oh shes alive and has issues, season 3 shes dead again and now oh shes back. I cant wait for Sara to be on her own show and finally shine. I think we will get a tease for Caitlin in the season final or 2B.
Did you see the flashes in Barry timetravel in the season 1 final, took me a while to notice all the future stuff. I didn't even notice Sara and Captain Cold until I saw a cap of it online lol
Yep Ronnie feels like Flashes version of Sarah. haha yep she does have so many lives, theres no way Sara will die yet again. I think she will stay for a long time now, god forbid they kill her a fourth time lol
I hope Constantine returns, ashame NBC sucked. I liked the show and wished it continued. I find it annoying that ended shows are getting brought back (e.g X-files, Full House, Heroes etc), but what about the poor canceled one or two season shows, which truly deserve a revival.
Yes I watched Supergirl, but have less confidence it will survive on CBS. I'm betting CW is screaming it didn't pick up Supergirl. I'm sure they will crossover at some point, and CW is partly owned by CBS, so theres hope it can happen.
Wow that does sound like Meg doesn't it. I look forward to deceased characters.
True Blood was just bad all around in their final season! :P Hmmm... If you had the chance, is there any series you'd love to bring back as a limited series (like X-Files, Prison Break, Gilmore Girls, Fuller, House,etc.)? Season 3 of Arrow was ok at best... I hated how they handled Felicity, Olicity and overall the villain for that season. While Laurel seems like she took three steps back this season, overall I feel like they have picked themselves back up. Idk Sara to me is still the better Canary, the only reason they probably killed her was to have nothing opposing Laurel's transformation. I still don't find her growth from zero to hero all that realistic tbh. Yeah, I did all those glimpses when Barry traveled back in time! Although I was more excited at Caitlin as Killer Frost and then another one where it looks like Barry is behind bars and Joe comes to visit him. For sure, Constantine felt like an organic character that should have always been in the show. I hope that if they don't give him another show (unlikely) on the CW that they at least promote him to main cast (or on a recurring basis) for the Arrowverse in general. Just like Stephen is Green Arrow, Grant is Barry and Melissa is Supergirl, I feel like Matt embodies Constantine down to a T. From what I heard regarding Supergirl, they don't think they'll have any cross-overs this season. Well, it's their number 1 hit this year, so I think they will give it a chance. But even if it was to get cancelled,I see CW, TNT, etc. trying to pick it up. LOL call me crazy but I'm not to keen on "James" Olsen. Again, not because he's black but just because he's nothing like Jimmy Olsen. He's so OOC and not even his personality is the same.
Thats a tough one if I could being back a series as a limited one, I vote Witches of East End and Legend of the Seeker. All got canceled, and should get some closure. Its hard for me to pick anything that wasn't canceled. I'd vote Constantine, but that needs more than a limited run.
Season 3 was ok, but yeah I hated Olicity and the villain of the season. Killing Sara made no sense, given if it was for Laurel. Sara could of ended up in a season long coma, still Laurel gets the same arc, but Sara isn't dead, and can awaken in season 4. Laurel's arc is always all over the place.
haha I forgot about the Barry behind bars, I've got to rewatch that or look for more caps. Yes to any more Constantine in general in any capacity I'd take anything, but of course I want way more and main cast.
I do hope it gets picked up by another network if it doesn't do well. Yes hes nothing like Jimmy Olsen we know, is it werid to me that Winn and Jimmy should switch roles. Winn seems more Jimmy than Jimmy is, well maybe not completely. But I seriously thought he was Jimmy before I heard about the casting and whos who.
I look forward to Lucy Lane next week, as I liked the actress on witches of east end. I'm not familar with the comics well every detail. But is it Lucy Lane or Lana Lang who's suppose to be BFF or close with Kara/Supergirl. If so I'd love it if Lucy became a regular, only because theres just Kara and Cat as regulars. We need some balance.
What surprised me is Kara told and Jimmy and Winn know her secret from the pilot. That was a shock, as its not typical for someone to find that so early. Everyone knows Kara's secret from the main cast but Cat lol and were only 2 episodes in.
Lifetime should have given Witchen a third and final season. I hated how they left it. LOL it's why I tend to not check out anything on cable networks like Lifetime (though UNREAL was a nice surprise of a show and I just can't get enough of Devious Maids), TNT or Scyfi b/c it's so unpredictable. I usually wait till the series has some seasons under its belt to consider watching it. LOL speaking of Supergirl... I am on the same boat. I actually see more Jimmy in Winn too! Even more so, I actually see more potential with Winn and Kara (like their chemistry reminds me of Olicity b/c Melissa and the male actor bring out the best in each other. ) and yeah more female characters on the main cast! I think you are right though and Lucy is the one who is bff's with Kara in the comics! TBH I'm happy that most of the cast is aware in the first few episodes. It got old real fast on Arrow. So I'm glad they didn't do that. :P As for Arrow, I actually would have loved that coma idea better. Similar to what they did with Ray this season in a way. He's seemingly dead but not really, they could have done it so that the other characters think she's dead but really isn't and then say season 4 premiere she finally wakes up. :P Are you a Netflix watcher by any chance?
I so agree, they so deserved a third and final season to wrap things up, or even a TV movie. I never watched Lifetime shows before ever, I only watched it because I read and heard about witches of east end, and thought it sounded good. I understand feeling that way too.
I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking that, and yes I see some potenial with Winn and Kara, and so want them to be a couple than Jimmy and Kara, besides I dread the thought of Lucy Lane who is Jimmy's ex coming and making it a love triangle.
I'm glad it's Lucy, and not Lana, glad I was right. It so gets old fast like on Arrow.
I know it would of been so much better than resurrections which gets old. Exactly, they could think shes dead and perhaps thinking she will never wake up and she does in season 4. Have Laurel lying to Quentin about Sara in a coma, and she might not wake up and so on. Better than her death and resurrection.
I'm not a netflix watcher, but I do watch shows from netflix by other means. I just am not a fan of streaming for many reasons. But they have great shows.
Have you also noticed how this year there has yet to a be a cancellation? Rumor has it is that time around for the 2015-2016 tv season the networks are waiting to see if the shows find an audience... While also looking into other means like streaming and DVR numbers. But yeah, streaming isn't for everyone. However, I can't get enough of the original series that Netflix has launched. They are doing really good! :P
i have noticed, what a surprise to see that i'm glad they are counting that into audience figures.
They are doing very well netflix, and I love that each episode is an hour long, and some season finals are like 1 and a half hours. Yes it isn't for everyone, I just am not a fan of watching on my computer, plus streaming the quality is not perfect and compressed and I heard netflix that older shows doesn't have original music intact, so those issues turn me off it using it for older programs, unless its a netflix exclusive tv show. But I do love the netflix shows they have original series, and I do watch those.
I really wanted to like that show but I'm watching more out of necessity and due to investment. I want to find out who the killer is but idk if I will watch a season 2. Do you watch AHS? Ah, well then you should read The Red Queen by Victoria Aveyard (which is being made into a movie) and the books by Sarah J. Maas which has written the Throne of Glass and Court of Roses series respectively!
I can understand feeling that way. I heard the show is good, but I saw how bad the ratings are, no point investing in a show that might be canceled. I have watched AHS but on and off, it depends what the season is about I'll tune in lol last one i saw was the witches.
What did you think of flash and arrow this week. I must say earth 2 robert as the arrow, I'm pretty sure he had training or something before being the hood, as people say a 65 year old man suddenly getting training on the island.
What I love is our Oliver can have a reunion with robert and moira (if shes also alive) from earth 2.
I liked arrow, but Sara's story came to a close before the spin-off so quickly, well quickly in the sense she didn't have much material with people. No one on one scene with her father, no one on one scene properly with oliver, no one on one scene with thea (I might add her and thea have never spoken one on one in the whole series to date). I could of done less with felicity and her mother, for even a 1 minute scene with sara and thea.
Well not too long ago there was animated movie called Flashpoint which featured Barry Allen as The Flash going back in time to save his mother but in doing sox he created what DC comics coined as the Flashpoint paradox; meaning that by changing that one event everything else around him changed and the world he had come to know ceased to exist. Due to his selfishness, Barry caused Aquaman and Wonderman to be enemies in this alternate universe where Bruce was the one killed and his father ended up taking up the mantle of Batman while Martha Wayne had a psychotic breakdown and became the Joker. Basically, you should watch that animated film as it was what kicked off the new 52 universe we have now in the DC comics! :P But anyways, I think having that tidbit on the earth-2 sequence meant that it was a nod to the comic that launched the new universe. :) Arrow was good but Felicity was a bit OOC imo and I wished they had waited to have Donna in next episode or towards the end of this one. She wasn't really needed and showing her and Felicity talking via phone would have sufficed. Although, I am calling it now, Lance (if he doesn't die) and Donna will totally have a thing. Can you imagine how ackward it will be if they get married too? That would make Lance in law with Oliver and Felicity, Sara and Laurel step sisters (all three of which Oliver has slept with). One character I hope they bring back this season is The Huntress. Frankly, there's more they could do with the character imo. I also think that you are write about Sarah too and I wished they would have done more with Ray as well. He was basically a damsel in distrees. Essentially there was too many characters and not a lot of them had much to do. Thought that "spidey" Olicity kiss was great! However, for a main character, Malcolm has not been in much of the episodes as of late. What gives?
Idk if you caught it but in the Earth-2 scene where it has Harrison Wells and his daughter, the daughter's name is Jesse Quick who in the comics is also another speedster just fyi! ;)
That movie sounds very interesting, I so want to see it now. Thanks so much for that rundown on it all.
Yeah It would of been good if Donna was on the phone in a cameo. I could of done without her in this episode, brought back later. That would be so awarkward if they did marry, and oh my all of them step sisters, that would be so werid.
I hope the huntress returns, she was suppose to return in season 3, but they couldn't fit it in. Darn was kinda hoping she would return in the 17th episode of season 3, so the trend of her always returning in the 17th episode of each season continues lol
Malcolm hasn't appeared at all but one episode. I guess they just cant find room to fit him in, now that hes the head of the LOA, its harder to put him into each episode now. But Malcolm will return in episode 8 according to the CW press release that came out today.
Yeah, maybe during the winter break you should definately watch it! I think it might be on youtube. Just search Flashpoint Paradox movie. LOL it's not a problem, my pleasure! ;) Yeah a 1 minutes convo/cameo wouldn't have been that bad. But yeah, it would be so weird but definately something to think about if indeed Lance and Donna end up together. As for Huntress, I did hear it was more scheduling as she was too busy. I would have loved seeing her as a member of the Suicide Squad now. :P What's ironic is that in real life the actress who plays her is like bffs with Emily! :) So if he hasn't appeared much, what's the point of having be main? i just don't get John Barrowman being promoted? Was it more of a contract so that he'd be tied down no matter what?
Awesome if its on youtube, thats easier to find. Thanks.
It is something to think about with donna and lance, funny that fans kept talking about them being together like a joke and now look where we are.
Wow I didn't know the actress was bff with Emily too, I thought that was Katie Cassidy. Nice to see though, thanks for that fact.
It might have been more a contract or trying to keep arrow as the most important thing incase he gets too in damand, he can seek other work but arrow hes tied down too first. I think this happens so much in tv shows to tie people down. Yet in some cases actors are lost and it ruins a show and were stuck with boring replacements and characters, I'm looking at you PLL. lol
Last time I check it should be on youtube, so hopefully it still is! Yeah, lol it started as joke for sure and now here we are on the verge of it possibly happening. I didn't know either till I saw Emily's twitter from Halloween 2013 I think and it had a bunch of pics with Jess(Huntress) and Chloe Bennet who plays Daisy on Agents of Shield. As for Katie Cassidy, oddly enough until recently (like maybe 2014) I never saw them interacting much. Cause let's face it... Katie may have initially been hired as the female lead but since being promoted to main in season 2, Emily has yet to miss an episode is for all intents and purposes the de facto female lead of the show. True, it could be like we don't neeed you for that many episodes this season so you can do whatever you want as long as you realize that if need be we are priority. Ugh PLL, Tammin and Julian at the very least should have been promoted imo. I mean i don't blame the actors cause if i was only getting called out of the blue every now and then (like Brant) I would look elsewhere(like Julian did with OUAT and other shows)...
Thanks. I know the fact it might happen oh my with lance and donna. I didn't see them interacting much until last year sometime, and I laughed going they appear close in real life yet on the show I feel they would never truly be friends. I just always saw them as working friends, yet I found Felicity and Sara are more friendly and friends than her and Laurel, but it has changed since. But still I feel like Felicity isn't close to any of the female characters, and more the males. I'm still waiting for a proper Felicity and Thea scene.
Thats right Emily hasn't missed any episodes since. I feel she is the the de facto female lead now. Laurel suddenly misses episodes since season 1, Felicity not. Notice how they put Felicity into episodes even cameo's or flashbacks to commit to her being in every episode, like they did in season 1 with Laurel.
Yeah thats right, it could be exactly like that that the show they are a regular on is top priority. I 100% agree with Tammin and Julian. I dont blame them either, I'd do the same if I was treated like that. Its why PLL has sucked ever since season 3, I just cant with that show anymore and changing plot holes, characters disappear, and stories cut. Apart from the liars, the love interests are getting any sort of attention, everyone else is gone. The writing in season 1 and 2 was the best and it all made sense. Now PLL is just a watch out of habit, I dont even bother looking at news or anything on it anymore, and if season 6b was delayed until march, I wouldn't care.
Lol I was on facebook and I follow Paul Blackthorne on there and he posted a pic of him and Charlotte Ross(Donna). Lmao someone in the comments section actually asked him if they were together in real life, and he calmly explained that no, they were just really close friends. But on the show, there's been times when Lance really has treated Felicity like a daughter imo. I definately liked the friendship between Sara and Felicity. I was so happy they became close and didn't fight over Oliver like they would have in most shows. I was also happy with the Laurel/Felicity scene we got last season cause it was about dam time. Btw, didn't you love her line in the Constantine episode where she's like " I'm just glad this time around, the person from the island wasn't some gorgeous woman". From what I heard though, Katie didn't even have to audition for Arrow (and they didn't do a chemistry test with Stephen either, otherwise they would have seen that the two had none). She(Katie Cassidy) got to pick the CW show she wanted to be a part of after Melrose Place failed and her arc on GG ended. She's not a bad actress per se and she had great chemistry with Collin (Tommy) and the guy who played Tedd Grant/Wildcat last season. But I'm glad that when they brough Barry and Ray onboard they screentested with Emily/Felicity first. Looks like they learned their lesssons. :P 3A should have never happened on PLL imo. But yeah, even now, 6A was great but I'm apprehensive about 6B based on what I'm hearing. Specially about the finale all having spoilers regarding a "shipper's galore". Sigh
Lmfo at fans asking if they were dating in real life. I forgot about Lance and Felicity, thanks for reminding me of their scenes again, your right. I wa glad they became close too. It was about dam time they got scenes, because previously all I could remember if drunk Laurel being mean to Felicity haha so nice we got scenes since then of them.
haha that was a funny line she said in relation to Constantine.
Yeah it is good to screentest the actors. They have learnt their lesson. I know alot of fans cant stand Olicity, and just dont like the couple, and want Laurel and Oliver together, they miss Felicity when she isn't with Oliver. Guess the issue is going to be in the fandom forever.
sigh at the thought of shippers galore, I bet all our favourites Jenna, Mellisa, Lucas, Noel etc. wont be in the final. Sigh again why I loved the early seasons, because they made an effort to feature everyone. Now I feel its too shipper centric, and the finals are just the liars, the love interests against the A. 6A had its moments, but I still dont buy Cece as A, we all know they just had her as A because she was the only actress they could get back, they even admitted that had two other people in mind as A. I bet it was suppose to be Wren, but the actor was too busy to return, so they just got Cece. If it were me, I'd have LOVED if it was Wren and Mellisa as A reveal. Mellisa being black widow. Now that would of been fantastic, and I'd have bought it and loved it. Of course I'd throw Jenna in as having been invovled somehow.
Hey, do you still think The Originals is doing better than TVD this year then? Also, it's official the Ed Westwick drama: Wicked City will air its remaining episodes but has been effectively cancelled. Thus making it the first cancellation of the TV season. I think Blood and Oil with Chace Crawford is next as it got its episode order reduced from 13 to 10 episodes. But back to Arrow, ugh the only reason Lauriver shippers still exist is because they are stupid hardcore comic book purist who want the show to be a carbon copy of the comics. Which is stupid cause then there would be no suspence at all. Whenever I'm on forums and that issue gets brought up, I just no longer engage it's not worth it. While with PLL, well you are spot on. While I like the CeCe reveal, it didn't 100% fit and I dont get why they shoe-horned Sara in there (nor why she's around in 6B). Marlene really lost her way imo and like Julie Plec lost sight of it all. Do you think Julie Plec Containment will be DOA. I like the lead actor but I don't think it will do well.
P.S. Check out the trailers for three of the series I have talked to you about below. The first one is of Inferno, the second of Bloodlines and the last of Horrifically Wicked Tales.
Yes I think it is doing very well this year. I love it. Yes its the first show to be canceled not a surprise though, I think Blood and Oil will be next to go. Scream Queens I still think will go too, it wont get a second season.
I know what you mean with comic book fans, and it annoys me so much with them. I feel I have to simply find fans who are not like that. I'm not so familar with the comic books, except buying the odd comic here and there. Infact I got into comics because they did buffy, charmed, angel, x-files and supernatural comics. Seems I only get into comics if its from a tv show or movie lol I'm not familar with comic canon, apart from what I read online.
100% agree to not engage in the issue online, no worth your time.
I agree I dont know why they shoe-horned Sara into it, guess again they didn't have other actors who were free. I see Marlene and Julie plec have both lost their way.
I really really am curious to find out who the other two people Marlene claims were chosen as A before she settled on cece is. I bet its Wren, Mellisa or Jenna. outside chance Toby or Ezra.
I'm not sure, I think it will be DOA.
Thanks for all those trailers, they were fun viewing.
I would say im somewhat knowleadgeable in comic book lore, but not 100%. But I'm not a comic nbook reader lol. I feel like Scream Queens will get saved even if I myself am just sticking with it this season to find out the killer.What pissed off about Sara was that they had her in more episodes than Mona. *Sigh* what can you expect lol. Will you checking out Shadow Hunters?
I geot you if I ever need comic advise or know stuff I know who to ask. I understand you, if scream queens does get a second season, I'll give it a shot then, I have just stopped watching shows that are new incase they get canned it feels like a waste of investing.
That pisses me off so much, how dare they. I'm annoyed that Mona gets so shafted, no reunion with her mother, then diappears. Infact her appearance in the season 61 final came out of nowhere, when she was absent in the previous episodes. Again the love interests get more screentime and boring newbies as usual.
I might check it out in off season, I normally always watch new shows or something haven't seen when tv shows are off on hiatus. Just as I watch a good 20 shows during the tv season, it leaves little time to watch new things.
Same here, I usually wait for it on Netflix and watch the shows that are in their 2nd+ season(s) since its less likely that shows not in their first seasons to get canned. From the CW, I think Crazy Ex Girlfriend will either get cancelled or be moved to Friday. But yeah, I am always left dissapointed with their treatment of Mona. There's so much potential that they don't use. TBH, I dislike all the love interests. Well ShadowHunters is premiereing in January. But no, I get what you mean! Thank god for DVR! lol
Good idea. Yes I think it will get canned or move to friday probaly. It all depends on the new shows they have and they do fair for the next tv season.
They really dont use them to there poteinal nad its so sad. Finally someone who dislikes all the love interests. I hate how they get so much attention, back in season 1 and 2 I loved it they got less focus. Plus I hate Marelene with Toby and Ezra, if they made one of them both really A, I'd be so so happy and impressed, but no. Seriously those girls are young, can we seriously expect all four to be with there long standing love interests come series end. Its too silly. Only one of the four should be married and have children, two tops, but not all four. I also am sick of Caleb, so overused and always helping the liars too much, plus hes in far too many episodes, more focus than Mona. It is cruel, that I wished ravenwood survived, just so he stays away. I hate how suddenly his show is canceled, and hes thrown back to Hannah, its like if the show lived, they never would of gotten back together anways. rant over.
Well, CW is apparently working on getting Riverside (A modern version of the Archie Comics) up and running for next year(since Fox passed on it) and there's chatter that they are trying to get a Friday the 13th and The Notebook series started.... Both of which are bad ideas. We all know how The Notebook ends, so what's the point? I think since 2012, CW has been doing quite well in the ratings and with critics that they may expand to summer. Like have some of their lesser shows (i.e. Reign, Jane, etc.) to air closer to Summer. Does that make sense? OMG yes! Like Toby and/or Ezra being evil was genius but Marlened caved and backtracked. See, Haleb was the last ship I liked but when he moved to ravenswood, I found myself liking Hanna with Travis. On top of that, Tyler Blackburn (Caleb) got cocky with his new show and was really rude to Haleb fans who wanted to have him back on PLL with Hanna. So that turned me off from him and I lost respect for him. Like without ur fans, ur nothing dude. Spencer practically has chemistry with every new guy they give her (i.e. Dean, Wren and heck even Noel) and Aria I liked with Jason, Jake and even Andrew.
Wow seriously, I say no to all three. Do you think hollywood is so out of ideas, everything is a remake, reboot or revival or based on a book. Cant they think of new ideas. Archie a maybe though.
It has been doing well atm hasn't it. And yes you make sense with all of that.
I know I hate how she caved in. I'm all for them trying to redeem them, but please own them being A and not back out. I understand and thats pretty bad of him to do that. I loved Haleb too in the begining, but got over them once he left and when he came back and Travis was suddenly pushed away, that annoyed me so much. So what his show was canceled, you cant expect someone to suddenly return to the show and act like nothing happened. I know they have so much chemistry with other guys. Oh yes to Aria.
If I had time and was bothered I'd write my own PLL 2.0 with my changes.
I remember back years ago, everyone thought each A team member was assigned to a liar or something. Hannah had Mona, Spencer had Toby, Emily had someone and Aria had someone. Was a fun theory.
The A team plot makes no sense, I hated how it was just a pair. I so thought Mona knew all.
Since Archie is being made by Greg Berlanti, I am willing to give it a shot... The other series I hope never see the light of day lol. As for PLL, I have resigned myself the notion that when it comes to endgames, I won't be happy. Tbh, I just feel like Marlene only thought as far ahead as season 2 and then has been winging it since then.
Well thats good then, I might give it a shot too then.
Yeah I agree the endgames I doubt I'll be happy with. Completely agree, why I'd have been happy if it did just end after season 2. And they brought the show back for a handful of specials and a tv movie instead.
I guess your right its really 50/50 and can go either way.
I just started watching jessica jones, finished episode 3. The character I think of faith from buffy when I see her, maybe she just has the look.
What did you think of arrow, flash and supergirl this week. I must say I understand they changed supergirl the order out of respect for france, but it was confusing in regards to lucy and jimmy's story. At least the dvd/blu ray set wil have those episodes in correct order.
I am watching Jessica Jones tonight! Ah, do you mean Krysten Ritter? Yeah I can see why you would think of Faith the two actress do share some similarities! :P I think both Arrow and Flash were on point this week. Did you hear that Roy will be showing up this season in 4.12(at least)? However, for Supergirl... I feel like they should have just gone on Thanksgiving break early and aired the episode they planned 3 or so weeks after the Paris attacks. Cause from what I heard, the reason they pulled was because it had Kara dealing with bombs... But Quantico had a similar situation, but all they did was have those Viewer Discretion advice and warning at the beginning of the episode. Whereas NCIS: LA, I do think they made the right call in shelving the episode (as that hit closer to home and dealt with ISIS) and said show is more episodic than long term arcs. LOL I just can't stand Jimmy, nothing wrong with the actor but the character is just so dull.
Yay thats great. Yes I do, and its funny that I keep watching it and thinking how good a faith series would of been lol It's ashame eliza had said she didn't commit to it because joss whedon didn't fully come on board it so she went to the failed true calling.
Yes me too, and yes I read roy will return yay. I agree they should of gone on break earlier. Me too, I do like Winn though, and I hope that ship will happen over Jimmy/Kara. I so hope they dont go the boring typical way of her and jimmy ended up together and him leaving lucy. It would be refreshing for her to never end up with jimmy, and with winn. but we all know that wont happen.
That is a bummer. Regarding Roy you think besides 4.12, that it might likely he's at least in the funeral scene of whichever character it was that died? I wish he'd also come back to Teen Wolf for an episode or two. :P Well, Greg Berlanti is two for two on breaking away from the norm. If it was any other showrunner, Arrow would have stuck with Laurel/Oliver no matter what. But Olicity took off. So perhaps if it gets enough of a fanbase Kara won't end up with Jimmy. :P
With Netflix and Amazon nowadays, I doubt we will ever have another show with 2+ seasons to not get closure. No lol I didn't meant for it to sound like it was Roy in the grave just if you thought Colton would be back for that episode where the show has the funeral for whoever died.
I know right, it still hurts that those poor shows wont get closure. I hope blu rays and dvds dont become discontinued because of netflix and amazon in the future. Because to be honest I much prefer owning a physical copy, because of the quality being the best possible and all the awesome extras.
I don't think that will ever go away but I see the streaming sites as a blessing in disguise since it now forces shows with more than one season to get closure/proper ending for there series. Like can you imagine if TVD was cancelled and without the pressure of Netflix or Amazon we'd have lost 7+ years without a proper ending? A lot of shows when it comes to syndication are now seeing more profit when streaming sites like the ones I mentioned above forces the networks to give most of their veteran shows the opportunity to wrap things up. See in terms of quality, I don't see the difference between watching it on Netflix v.s a blue ray or DVD. But I do respect ur opinion and you are right about how only in the DVD/Blue Ray do you get those bloopers, extras, etc. Then again, I'm not one to re-watch series or movies over and over. When it comes to Movies: Clueless, 16 Candles, Pretty in Pink, The Breakfast Club, Perks of Being a Wallflower, Mean Girls and Pitch Perfect franchise have made me want to re-watch them (and I do have physical copies of those) but other than that, I don't see the point. It's like a book, while I love the Harry Potter books, I didn't want to spent $20+ on one; I rather borrow it from the library you know? :P Speaking of TVD though, while the CW has yet to release their midseason schedule.... (it will be interested where The 100 and Containment are placed since they don't have that much room as it is), in an interview with Greg Berlanti and Brandon Routh both stated that the premiere date for Legends is January 21st which is a Thursday! I don't see why they'd lie, so its most likely true but I am curious which show they will move out of Thursdays and to where. I hope it's not The Originals and instead it's TVD being shipped to Fridays after ANTM finishes its run.
Yes I hope your right, and yes it is a blessing with netflix and amazon, I hope witches of east end can get some closure in the form of a movie on netflix, I really want that show to get it.
Its because of netflix that X Files, Full House, Prison Break are returning. Plus they tried to get a charmed reboot because of netflix but fans wanted a revival so it got canceled a few years ago.
Thanks, and I respect your opinion too. I love how I can be kind, and I always respect other views, unlike bad experiences online in the past, when someone keeps forcing their opinion on you and gets angry.
But yes for me I love to buy my favourite shows on blu ray or dvd, for the extras and experience, and yes I dont rewatch over and over, but I do rewatch at least a year.
But yes Movies are so much fun in netflix, I think I love netflix more for the movies. While with a tv show I like to own it on blu ray. But I dont hate netflix.
Shows I wouldn't buy on blu ray like reality shows, nature or documetry shows, I would prefer netflix. Since I wouldn't buy those on dvd or blu ray.
I completely understand what you mean by Harry Potter and the borrowing from a library. That makes sense.
So looks like TVD and Originals are shipped off to friday, as I feared. I think both shows are so done next season. I cant see either show lasting past season 8 and 4 now. Ratings will drop further, and I can see them getting another season after this current one.
It sucks as I want originals to last longer than TVD, it will feel like angel all over again when it only lasted one year after buffy. I'd hate for Originals to end before TVD.
I'm surprised LOT isn't getting a 2-hour premier night, since the pilot is in 2 parts according to news I read. Seems werid to have a pilot over 2 weeks as part 1 and 2. You would think they would air them in the same week or same night. Oh well.
I think Arrow and Flash will start the week after on Jan 26 and 27.
I saw that as well and I was just about to tell you the news. I actually think it might be a blessing in disguise for The Originals since it was trying to get the same demographic as Shondaland's TGIT line up. But with Legends and The 100 on Thursdays now, I see it as good counterprogramming since they'll skew more male. TVD really does need to end and unlike The Originals, it has run out of steem. It's no longer engaging and it feel like a bad soap opera now as opposed to its earlier years. See Reign has been risen in their ratings since moving to Fridays so I think moving out of there was a wise move. I think there's hope to keep The Originals (which has a loyal fan base) around for longer if they permanently keep in on Fridays. I actually think for the CW Mondays is their main problem now since Thursdays with LOT will be fixed. Though, imo they should have waited and premiere either The 100 early January (and when LOT premieres have it go on a one week break) or a week after LOT so we'd get a 2hr episode like mentioned. :P
I hope so too, it will work out. I agree I hope it does end soon, its funny because no vampire show has gone for more than 7 seasons, and I hope that curse will happen. buffy and true blood ended at 7. I really hope it ends soon. Originals I so want to get at least 5 seasons.
I hope so too. Mondays have been a major problem for them for years, like the only day I felt has sucked for like many years.
Yes I did wish they did that with the 100, and like I said with LOT 2hrs.
Its funny CW has never done a 2hr episode ever, since the WB days. Oh wait only smallville's series final got it, and a episode in season 9. I might be missing a show please correct me. But very few. I remember WB did alot of those with charmed or buffy.
I think by moving them to Friday (while it no longer is the kiss of death it once was... especially on the CW) at least in TVD's case means they will at least get a final 8th season (wether it gets a full one or a short order like HOD, Nikita and OTH remains to be seen). They will milk the final season slogan for TVD and allow for a contract to be written up to bring back Nina for a few episode to wrap up the series. I just hope if she does, it's for more than 1-2 episodes. Julie Plec must be hating herself right about now! Also nowhere to be seen is her other show called Containment. which will be DOA now for sure. But I could honestly see Friday working well for the CW with The Originals at either 8 or 9 and Reign paired up with it now that ANTM has ended. No, I think your right... I think Smallville was the last one and maybe Nikita when it was shipped to Fridays. I think the reason that is cause they only have so many hours in their schedule unlike the bigger networks. I do wish they'd expand some of their series to summer schedule. Like Reign wouldn't do so bad if they started their season around March imo either.
I hope so too, and Nina gets more than 1-2 episodes which would be like x-files getting mulder back for just the last 2. I hope its at least 7. She must be, her other show I think wont survive.
Yeah they should do more summer seasons, or even shows starting in april/may and expending into summer.
It sucks they have so little timeslots, I remember WB had Sundays too. But I cant ever see a CW sunday. Thats why they need summer programs, or shows to air in the fall and another show taking its spot in spring.
Same, like say season 8 of TVD is confirmed as its last one and will only have 12 episodes, than I would like to see Nina in at least 5 of them cause that would put her at almost half of the season being present. I didn't know she had a new show.... I think she's trying to break into the movie industrie. So ending TVD sometime soon would be for the best before she gets big and then can't even film 1-2 episodes. Sunday is just to competitive for the CW to even consider it but like u pointed out, I wouln't mind shows starting in April or May and running into Summer. That would definately give them more hours.
thats true with ending it sooner rather than later. And yes I think she is trying to break into the movie industrie. Its interesting shes done it the same time as sarah from buffy who was also 26 when she left buffy. At least buffy ended without losing buffy, rather julie plec wants it to go on forever. She must see the shows ratings are bad and that its lost interest in the fandom.
I agree that would work out better running into summer. They can also do shows starting in October and ending in January for 13 episodes, then a new show airing from february to may too. But I much prefer my summer run starting april and may too.
What did you think of supergirl last night. It was good. Did you hear about casting young superman. I wonder if at this rate clark kent will appear just not as superman in person. I still hate all these DC movie and tv restrictions. To be honest I'm more intersted in the tv DC universe than the movie.
Batman and Superman haven't had any tv shows in years. Yes there was smallville but the last true superman show using him was in the 90s. I think we will see a show based on them in 20 years haha
In a way, this might a blessing in disguise for TVD, Nina isn't so big she's unavailable or they can't afford her. :P If they decide to end it with season 8, I hope they can bring her back! I'd much rather they take a page out Heart of Dixie, Nikita and GG and give TVD a short final season (10-13 episodes) that they can burn off from September-December. I think the reason they are casting a young Clark Kent is because ratings aren't so great. I think they are going through what SHIELD and Gotham experienced in their 1st seasons. Supergirl (the show and writers) just don't know who she should be. It seems like they are trying to please everyone but in hindsight they aren't pleasing anybody. Most critics think the love triangle feels forced and rather than Kara be this strong independent woman trying to make it in the real world, she's weak-ish.
See that's why I hate DC in a way because they say that they are keeping the TV and Cinematic universes separate to allow for "no restraints" type of writing is pure BS. If that were the case, they wouldn't have placed an embargo on Deathstroke, Harley Quinn, Amanda Walle, Floyd Lawton and The Suicide Squad who all appeared on Arrow first. But now apparently they can't use them cause they will be used in the cinematic universe. If they are going to pull stunts like this one, then they might as well just connect the two.
That is true. Yes they can give it a short order like those shows. However GG was so so bad in its final season, I block that final season out. I refuse to ever rewatch it. So I hope TVD can get a good send-off, as sometimes writers blame a shorter final season for not getting enough time to wrap. But we'll see, I'd prefer a shorter run though.
Yes they are trying hard to make it work with supergirl. I hope it survives the first season.
That annoys me to no end, I hate how it ruins shows. I agree would be better if they connected the two. Its so annoying. I know some fans think arrow is a rip off from batman borrowing ideas and characters, that they think that originally they wanted to do a batman show, but DC put a restriction because of the movieverse, thats they just caved and did Arrow. I dont believe that.
Well they cant cancel flash when that movie comes out, it would just fall into the superman returns type thing with two going at once.
Apart from The Vampire Diaries or The originals....I would say I like watching The originals more because it has interesting storyline. I would like to see how that goes. With this new Hybrid/Chimera baby...Klaus child...I would like to see that more of his child's storyline from that show. The Vampire Diaries is interesting because it also has new hybrids...The witch/hybrids that's going to be awesome too apart.
Yes to that, I'm more exited for the originals than vampire diaries this season. vampire diaries hasn't really been good since season 4, and the fact they wont introduce new supernatural species and instead keep the same old, its gotten boring with nothing truly new.
As much as I'm excited to see where the witch/hybrids story goes, still It's sad they wont introduce something completely new. And thats one reason I feel the show has to end after season 7, they haven't got enough story for more, if there isn't anything new.
Hello, last night there were over 1500 comments on the Klaus and Camille comment page and today it is down to 60. I would like to know how can the comments just disappeared. Can the comments be restored?